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how much sharper are expensive lens at wide apertures?

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>>4307053
>>4307041
That's the back of the film, ain't it?
In the camera it's the white part that gets hit by light
Isn't It placed correctly?

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>>4307062
How doable is DIY developing? I'm considering it just so I don't have to mail my rolls to some stranger who's going to look at all of my pictures, but also because it seems cool to do. I don't take very many pictures though so it probably wouldn't be the better option financially.

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>>4307062
well done posting an FGT OP image that's square and clearly a photo of film, fuckin retards don't get it and wonder why the thread dies like the last one.
>>4307066
for handheld b&w photos taken through cafe windows in the evening?
Not much sharper, but a bit.

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>>4307067
idiot

Has anyone tried that new chinese cyberpunk film? It is really cheap.

>>4307085
It's just yet another de-Remjetted Vision3. Not bad, but nothing special either.

>>4307062
I am too poor to shot slides
>>4307072
black and white? piss easy, no more difficult than making coffee.
>>4307085
which ones

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First time shooting rollei 25 ortho. I like the look of the film but hate how curly rollei is compared to Kodak. I do like ortho films, the look is really neat.

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>>4307072
If you’re just going to do bw, it’s pretty braindead simple, and there are developer options that are long lasting and economical (rodinal, hc11, d76). Shit you could even use coffee and vitamin c powder, it really doesn’t take much for bw. Colour isn’t worth it unless you shoot lots, or you save up your rolls and have a bulk development day to maximize your chems.

>>4307087
>>4307090
>piss easy
So I've heard. I assume this isn't the case for B&W reversal though? Maybe this is what will finally convince me to switch to B&W
I've also heard that the process for color is essentially the same, but based on your answers, is this not true? I see little developing reagent sets that say they work for both color and B&W.

>>4307091
Ilford had an easy step by step for reversing.

>>4307041
First, you have the film backwards. Expose the black side.

Second, I'm almost done with a working prototype of an instax mini rb67 back that needs no extra parts except for what you can dig out of a cheap instax camera and the shoulder screws that mount in place of the rotating back.

>>4307076
Explain to me then, shitlord
The white frame faces the lens in the Instax just as I did with the Mamiya back

>>4307094
fucking idiot

>>4307088
Why isn't this inverted?

Guys Im doing too many shoots to continue shooting film exclusively. Can anyone recommend a good digital system for a Mamiya MF shooter? Ideally something with a mirror? Budget anywhere under 7k. I was thinking Canon 5D based on what some friends told me…

>>4307091
It’s not so much that colour dev is more difficult (it isn’t really, just more finicky), it’s that the chemistry is more unstable and doesn’t store well, so it’s not really worth the time unless you really just want to, or you can maximize the use of the chems.

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>Ektar
I don't really care for the colors a ton but I got a few good shots a while back

>1/3

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>>4307096
>he hasn’t bound power button triple click to “screen invert” on his phone yet
Despicable.

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>>4307101
>2/3

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>>4307103
>3/3

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>>4307104
>4/3
forgot this funny one

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>>4307094
literally just open a fresh pack and put it in your instax and watch how it comes out to see you're wrong
obviously the exposed side has to be the back because otherwise the image would be flipped around

>>4307101
>What's the deal with ektar?

Seems like everyone prefers porta or e100 yet ektar is more expensive and considered a "better" stock than porta, yet porta is much more widely used. So what is the point of ektar

>>4307109
>what is the point of ektar?
No idea, I bought it because it was a color neg 100 speed film. Maybe the only reason it's around, avoids the e6 cost of e100. Fuji sure as shit isn't doing much to help in that department. I'd probably just end up buying Gold 200 over it in the long run.

>inb4 Kodak cancels ektar and the influencer fags online complain about a lack of options

>>4307109
ektar is mai waifu don't you dare say such things
kodak fuji 400 is just my sidepiece but she fine too
portra is boring

>>4307111
E100 is the best because you do not have any color variance due to software inversion.

PRO IMAGE NUMBAH ONE

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Ektar 100 with Kodak warming filter
Retina Reflex III with Schneider 28/4 Curtagon

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>>4307110
>what's the point of ektar

From my understanding it's an absurdly sharp-grained color film so it's ideal for landscape work.

If you want cheap 100 speed color film, Proimage 100 exists and can be bought for $40/pack of 5. to my understanding it's most similar to kodak gold 100 from the 90s, looks like the bastardchild of ektar and portra

Fooj started up production of their Japanese domestic consumer film again so you can pick up foojicoolor 100 fresh for ~$200/10 rolls. Superia Premium 400 fresh for about $300/10 rolls

Kodak gold 200 should be talked about more. It's great.

>>4307116
>Fooj started up production of their Japanese domestic consumer film again
says who? didn't they just start rebranding even more kodak for the japanese market?
>Proimage 100
shit sux

>>4307125
They started selling their own Japan Market Exclusive film again in the country. Production resumed around june. 10 packs of superia premium 400 and fujicolor 100 have been cropping up on ebay with 1/2026 expiry dates. One can only hope their slide film will show up in the USA more

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Meme or crutch but I love me some redscaling

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>>4307145

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Anyone have experience with the Olympus system? I want to try some analog birding. right now the 85-250 is what I am leaning towards. Are there better options that aren't all that expensive?

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>>4307146
It just fits my mood

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>>4307148
my mood is larping living in a post apocalyptic world yeah

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>>4307149
its all so tiresome

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>>4307145
are those blue flares light leaks? I had a similar pattern on like half a roll but wasnt sure if it was just my shitty scanner

>>4307152
Yeah with redscale light leaks appear blue instead of orange lol

>>4307109
portra is more used because its for new people that see 'film' being done on youtube shorts or instagram reels and they all use portra. when i last went to the lab, the person in front of me in line was asking what "keeping negatives" mean all while buying 2 rolls of portra. ektar is basically negative slide film and is way better than that shit

>>4307108
am I... am I guitarded?
fuck
thanks /p/ I'm a fucking moron
I'll try it again right now

>>4307124
it's not because it sucks

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>>4307095
okay in your position I would tell me I'm an idiot too
justified
>picrel
>it worked
have some silly abduction test shots

>>4307062
Český Krumlov?

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Realizing I have to take into account the distortion of wide angle lenses

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>>4307155
>Ektar is basically negative slide film

First off not only is this statement beyond retarded but also the color composition of ektar is nothing like slide

>>4307210
Ektar just feels like Kodak's answer for Reala that somehow has still survived.

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>>4307088
I am at work where I can halfway invert the negatives decently. I feel like I over metered on these pics and blew the highlights out, but it was my first time shooting 25iso film so I was nervous about that for some reason. Overall this is the rollei film I have liked the most, although I am not going to say I would use it over tri-x

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>>4307231

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>>4307224
Wasn't there versions of ektar that came out before reala?

>>4307187
Looks pretty cool anon

>>4307235
>>4307224
Ektar is just their sharp, slow colour neg brand name. They also used to call lenses that. Back in the day they used to make Royal Ektar 25, which I've never had the luck to shoot.
Current Ektar is nothing like Reala, which actually had high contrast, neutral saturation, and good shadow colour, in addition to being super sharp. Current ektar is the same old kodak shitty cyan skies, and falls off a clif in the shadows, but with pink skin tones rather than the red in their consumer films and the mud in Portra. I actually don't mind it because it is sharp and contrasty, so like a slide film its best in flat lighting.

I did it again bros, I ordered another point and shoot

>>4307253
Some point and shoots are based.

>>4307099
Oh right everyone here is a hobbyist

I want to larp as Vivian Maier, rec me a somewhat cheap but not so shitty TLR

>>4307276
some of us shot a wedding, once, maybe twice, but what market is there for "shoots" in 99% of the world? you basically have to live in NY, london, etc to have clients other than onlyfans whores.

anyways to be frank with you, full frame digital is the new 645. digital 6x7 does not really exist, just digital almost-actually-645 ($25k). most digital medium format isnt even big, it's just slightly bigger to optimize noise a bit, it doesn't even have lenses with 6x7-like or even 645 like bokeh until you start spending way, way more than $7k - $7k wouldn't even get you the body.

so if you hate yourself, and want to spend $7k for a body and a lens, maybe two, go ahead and buy a fuji gfx100/S and enjoy all that 1.25x better than full frame goodness. their new GFX100II has autofocus that's mostly good enough for event photography and sports so GFX100/S cameras are coming down in price.

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>>4307270
Based or cringe
Call it

>>4307276
If you’re a professional why are you asking 4chan?

>>4307284
Some of the best “candid” shots I’ve got have been on an Olympus lol. They’re great for snapping quick shots without being obvious.

>>4307284
I wouldn't say its based or cringe because it has some of both. Regardless it looks like a fun camera.

>>4307280
Yashicas seem to fly under the radar but generally are pretty good from what I’ve seen

>>4307094
Don't do it in under regular light retard, you burned it

>>4307281
I am in one of those cities. Ok so you’re basically saying full frame is my best value, which I’m totally fine with. I guess I was more asking viewfinder, handling wise as every digital camera I’ve come near feels like a toy. I’ll see if I can get my hands on a GFX but it sounds like you’re saying it’s not a huge difference in terms of look (?)

>>4307286
You’re not wrong. I started posting here in like 2009/10 when I first started shooting. It was a much different vibe. Only came back during the lull of early 2020 when I couldn’t shoot. I can’t even post any work here anymore because you people are so revolting to any normal person.

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>>4307109
Portra is only good for skin tones.
Ektar is perfect for anything else, it get vivid colors, almost no grain, it's usefull on all kind of days

>>4307297
Every digital camera does feel like a toy compared to all metal film gear from before the amazon shopping age. That's digital cameras. Maybe one pentax, some expensive nikon, might feel more solid to you, but that's just because they used a different plastic coating, or designed the detents in a clicked switch or dial differently.

FF is the new medium format because it's the second highest quality and second most expensive standard in cameras now, and approximates the line counting resolution of 645-6x7 SLRs with decent color film. But it doesn't have the look. The largest digital sensor comes on on a five figure camera and is still smaller than 645 film.

To get more of a medium format look out of a GFX you'd need to adapt a very fast manual lens, not use fuji's first party lenses, and the third party lenses for GFX are kind of shit desu.

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>>4307147
zuiko's prime telephotos are cheap as fuck, and if you want a good yet cheap wide angle, the Makinon 24mm/f2.8 is pretty nice (pic rel)

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>>4307300
the fastest non-chinese lens on fuji GF is like shooting f1.3 on FF, and FF has a professional grade 58mm f0.9 and 135mm f1.8, on nikon alone.

medium format digital lost the bokeh wars

>>4307284
>Reala
used to have the 130ED
It's super good

>>4307284
cringe because no wide zoom range

>>4307296
Those were clearly the previously made *tests* that didn't work out and I took the pictures for reference to ask for help and to show how I was doing it
Wait me, you thought "my tests were not working I was manipulating the film under regular light"?
Is THAT what you got from my initial post?
And you feel like you're in the position to call anyone else an idiot?
KEK >>4307297
fucking moron

>>4307308
why do you write like a retard

>>4307286
>Olympus
I was originally looking at some zooms MJU II's because they're tiny but yikes, they are NOT worth what they're going for.
I'd buy the 2.8 fixed lens one if I had confidence that the electronics weren't gonna stop randomly working one day

>>4307288
What don't you like about it

>>4307305
Very nice, I'm hoping the ED glass does something lol

>>4307307
38 is workable imo

>>4307297
>>4307308
Quoted your post by accident becuz sausage fingers
Meant to call the other guy a fucking moron
>>4307296
>the confidence to call someone an idiot when you can't understand what a visual representation is
>in a photography board, nonetheless
Next time I'll post a photo taken without light to preserve the emulsion, alright?
I even stated in my initial post >>4307041
that I was in a pitch black room

I admit I was a moron for not realizing that the "back" of the instax photo is actually the lightsensitive side
But not for "taking photos of supposedly 'unexposed' film in broad light", that's on you lmao
Thanks for the chuckles, mr. dunning-kruger

>>4307311
The most based point and shoot cameras are fully manual, wide angle, and zone focused, usually with an external ovf. No electronics needed. I won't say they are objectively better, but I do find them extremely enjoyable to use because of their simplicity, and the AF basically all p&s cameras is waaaaay too slow to do anything aside from non-moving subjects.

On the other hand you've got a pretty wide focal range to mess around with, and you don't need to carry a lightmeter.

>>4307300
>>4307304
Ok I’m hearing what you’re saying about build quality. It’s really the viewfinder experience that kills me but I guess a giant MF mirror is hard to beat.

Sorry I should have clarified. Resolution and bokeh have little value in my line of work. I was wondering more about rendering/color. Like the things artists care about (not calling myself one).

>>4307324
Everything is just a different look. Gotta try them out to see, or look at some negatives. Larger formats do provide much finer rendering, especially when you get into LF. I would say that color gets finer in some respects as well.

>>4307308
>>4307312
you're retarded enough to take off each slide from the pack, taping it, then putting it back into the cardrige instead of just getting a cheap second hand instax body and screwing a mamiya back adapter on it. So yeah it seemed like you were retarded enough to do that.
Also when you're taking it out of the cardrige you're fucking with the dev crushing system, hense why it's brown.
Hope you get fixer poisoning you brain dead faggot.

>>4307329
jesus you really can't *not* think in the most moronic way in every situation

>you're retarded enough to take off each slide from the pack
No, I obviously took one slide at a time, run the test, put it back and shoot a blank
>instead of just getting a cheap second hand instax body and screwing a mamiya back adapter on it
I said I wanted to experiment, not to buy things
I wanna play around with instax film, with new uses and ideas, I don't wanna click a button at the eBay app and get it at my doorstep two days later
Literally mindless consumerist thinking. Pathetic.
>So yeah it seemed like you were retarded enough to do that.
God forbid we have fun and experiment with what we have at the time and play with the limits without paying money for more products
>Also when you're taking it out of the cardrige you're fucking with the dev crushing system, hense why it's brown.
You have no idea what you're talking about
>taking of the cartridge damages the slide
It's literally a flimsy tape holding the slide inside the plastic cover
The crushing mechanism is in the camera, shithat
>Hence why it's brown
Explain me why my photos turned out just fine when I fixed my single mistake of putting the emulsion facing the wrong side then

I made a mistake, chuckled it off and ran my test shots
You, on the other hand, are chronically stupid
And a nophoto, which is just not surprising

On my Canon FTb QL sometimes, not all the time, the film does not advance far enough between shots and you end up with partial overlapping exposures. This has ruined some really good shots with this camera. After losing shots that I expected to be really great I feel I can't trust this camera and have stopped using it, in fact I've gone back to digital until I either figure it out or get a different film camera. I want to say it happens more often near the end of the film canister than near the start.
Is this a common problem with film cameras, and is it self repairable?

>>4307363
Winding spools wear out, even on 70s boxes. Happens all the time.

>>4307364
how do I fix winding spool

Got given an OM1 for free cause it has a fucked shutter curtain. How much would it cost to fix?
1/5th of the shutter curtain on the right side doesn't fully open on faster shutter speeds and on slower shutter speeds I notice that the length of time the shutter is open is inconsistent despite the shutter speed setting remaining the same.

>>4307366
Replacement lol

>>4307368
$200+

What's the biggest batch of chemistry you've ever used at once?

Currently running 3.2 liters in 2 tanks.

>>4307210
>color composition
explain what this means

>>4307378
i'm in awe at the size of those tanks, lad. absolute units. My paterson 2 reel takes 600ml so what are you running, like two five reels or something?

>>4307406
3.2 liters in total. 1 tank devved 6 4x5 sheets with 1L, and the other did 4 35mm and 2 120 in 2.2L. All rodinal stand dev because I'm busy/lazy.

It's kinda fun when I have to fill up my 4L measuring cup almost all the way. The 8 reel tank is also fun to do inversions with because of the weight.

>>4307408
and here i am fretting over whether i should develop one roll or not to not waste chems lol. damn.

Anyone have experience with cell phone light meter apps?
Got my first film camera and the camera store lady looked it over for me and aimed it around and told me the light meter looks right. but it's consistently metering way way higher shutter speed than my phone app. I've almost finished a roll, most of it on auto but some of it on manual based on the readings of my phone light meter and am afraid it's going to come back a mostly fucked roll.
If it is fucked, what hot shoe light meter have people here tried? I like going on walks with my camera and looking at my phone as little as possible. pulling it out to meter every shot will suck all the fun out.

i currently shoot with a leica but somethings itching in me to buy an SLR as well, especially since im wanting to get into shooting fashion. one of the other reasons is that my 21mm lens has a minimum focus distance of 50cm (which i can use fine with no focus coupling) but there are nikon F mount 21mm lenses that have 20 or 30cm mfd. that being said i havent bought any gear in like over 8 months so it might just be my GAS. idk what to do

>>4307418
Use a handheld one to double check/calibrate your phone meter. They work reasonably well.
Depending on your lighting and film type you can just take a reading in full sun, and a reading in the shadows. Then switch quickly between the two. It's usually like 3ish stops.

>>4307420
Get a large format camera. What more would you want for fashion?

>>4307418
ive got a phone meter app (android). it has a meter that uses the phones camera to determine it, and another for my phones light sensor (next to the front selfie camera). the meter that uses the camera is absolutely shit and is WAY off, but the sensor one has basically been perfect in the 2 years ive used it over hundreds of rolls. it even reads down to EV 3 ish well (christmas tree lights with no house lights on, at night). just in very sunny days it only goes up to EV 15-15.5 ish, not 16. and you dont need to meter for every shot. i can shoot a roll of slide film and only meter a few times. you just need to meter when the lighting conditions change, e.g. going from indoor to outdoor, sunny to cloudy/overcast, walking into shade etc

>>4307424
any recs for a handheld meter?

>>4307424
>Get a large format camera. What more would you want for fashion?
well its more like fashion/erotica/nude. and ive already got a fuji 690 which is basically 'crop large format'. it has a mfd of 1m which is ok but ive thought about wanting to do closer shots. maybe ill know after doing a few shoots idk

>>4307426
Sekonic l608 if you can find one for like 300 bucks. They're superb meters, and will do everything and more than you need. The flash metering is sweet on them. You can hook a pc sync cable into the meter and trigger your flashes to take spot or incident readings. Very useful.

Any old incident meter for like 25 bucks will be good if you don't need spot metering. I have a sekonic studio deluxe l
-39A that I also love. No batteries is awesome.
Apparently you can get a spot meter attachment for it, but carrying excess things defeats the purpose of such a compact meter for me.

>>4307427
If you're doing more studio type work do not EVER brush past large format cameras, especially monorail style view cameras. You can always get a 120 back for them if 4x5 is too inconvenient. Hell, you could get a rb67 back adapter for your 4x5 and use a 70mm back to have 50 shots per roll on your camera.
Having no mfd and tilt/shift is invaluable for more controlled film photography.

I think that large format is gay and retarded

t. Minox chad

>>4307432
You know what they say.. The bigger the film, the bigger the camera(cock).

>>4307427
Don't be like hassleblad boudoir anon.
Shit. Is he still alive?

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Finally... My 47mm 4x5 shots have been scanned. I have some learning to do with the new camera. I think the lens doesn't actually cover the full 4x5, or maybe just at f22. Projection gets larger with smaller aperture, right??

Anyways.. I prefer the look of my older 65mm super angulon, but this one is still pretty sweet, and I love the form factor of the camera. Now that I have my test shots out of the way I can really start snapshitting.

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And here is no.2 Working with such a wide angle lens is really really fun. It gives you a very interesting perspective, and seeing everything from the ground glass is really cool.

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>>4307431
>If you're doing more studio type work
unfortunately its not really studio-y and i really much prefer something handheld. i really hate having to worry about gear and physical stuff so 4x5 will be a nightmare for me
>>4307437
im surprised he hasnt gotten an std or something already. but yes i want to try similar things (not as vulgar i guess)

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A wide landscape. Pretty sure I missed focus on this somehow. I need to bring my loupe out EVEN if I am using my binocular attachment. It doesn't have enough magnification to be totally reliable.

>>4307441
Bummer. Sounds like the more technically demanding nature of a view camera would slow you down too much as well. Maybe one day...

>>4307443
>slow you down
im fine slowing down, like my fuji 690 slows me down quite a bit. but i really, really hate logistics and just worrying about "stuff" (probably autism or something). my dream day would be 1 camera (wrist strap only) and a couple of rolls in my pocket, most comfortable clothes. no backpack and not having to worry about food/water and just shoot for hours. so having to worry about a tripod, the camera, adding on the lens, dark slides and putting all the film in before hand, loupe, dark bag, all the setting up and down. ugh

>>4307066
Sharpness is overrated, embrace the dreamy glow.

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>>4307467
>oh boy you're gonna love my shitty test shots
two things you won't see often on instant film
>Scheimpflug
>nightscape
I'm thinking of getting a cheap fresnel glass just to focus properly and get sharp images, but I'm liking the tests so far

>>4307501
learn to focus, mongoloid

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As promised I devved a roll (ultrafine extreme 400) in black/white/green
Unfortunately my shitcam can't focus and it's probably 2 stops overexposed due to no dx code
I'll probably stick with rodinal mostly since agitation is just too much effort
My comprehensive review: seems aight

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>>4307502
I know how to focus, thank you very much
You could learn how to read though
These are test shots on intstant film using a RB67
"Test shots" as in "I'm experimenting with things and getting the hang of it"
The fresnel glass I mentioned is precisely for focusing, since the focus on the viewing glass is different because the film is not in the plane of focus it would normally be with the Mamiya's back
Thanks for the input, nophoto

>>4307505
learn to fucking write in English and learn to fucking take criticism you stupid monkey.

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>>4307501
>>4307505
Would it be possible to use your mamiya's focusing screen on the Instax back? Also, I think the blurred cityscape could be cool for a silhouette double exposure.

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>>4307517
I'm not that feller but the challenge with these things is always getting the film the correct distance so that the focusing is accurate. it's probably not that far off with the film in the original back, but if you wanted to include the developing rollers you'd probably have to remove the rotating graflok part to make room

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CHICK PICS. Here is my favorite from the batch.

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>>4307529
Here is the other one that I like. Very fun subject!!

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>>4307530
>>4307529
>not tilt shifting to get the whole floor of birds in focus
vgh.

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>>4307538
Kind sir, please! It would have been far too chaotic if all birds were in focus!

A dimly lit room with the ceaseless skittering and scattering of wee chicks would have been an exercise in folly for anything more cumbersome than a handheld camera! The decisive moment would have been lost to my own scramblings!

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>>4307541
Everyone is taking subject isolation bokeh photos of everything. Be different.

>>4307543
It suits the images perfectly imo. The pose that the two chicks are making together is really quite nice.

Maybe if I have time I will try something with a strobe setup. There is a possibility I could use tilt to get the ground and like 5 inches above it in focus then just move the whole camera in place using an external viewfinder to quickly take an in focus picture.
It may not be possible because of the longer focal length lens I would need... Sounds like a fun challenge either way.

>>4307439
Super-angulon 47mm ?
XL or non-xl?

>>4307560
Non xl. I think the xl came out after they released the handy.

>>4307563
Images looks really nice and sharp
You need to stop it down even more to get larger image circle (to 32 I think)

>>4307563
Did you use center filter?

>>4307569
No center filter.

>>4307566
The shutter is only marked for f22, but it does go past that, and the iris closes down just a little more. I need to experiment a little to see what the actual smallest fstop is.

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>>4307468
Stay tuned, anon.

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>>4307581
That's not who I meant to reply to, but I do like that.

>>4307501

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I have accepted the great everything in focus chick challenge of 2024. The piece of wood is my stand in for a chick.

Please note the precisely executed schiempflug. I used a straight edge to set the angles because my camera is low enough to do that. I may need to switch to my 500mm lens, but for now this seems to be working.

Only a little while longer of fiddling with this until I can start working on the strobe setup, and take one picture.

>>4307566
I meant to say that the maximum marked aperture is f22.

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Ilford ortho 80 developed 50:1 rodinal

I shot it on a Pentax 645n and the last frame didn’t get exposed. I’m not sure why, is this a common problem? I’ve only developed 3 rolls including this one and this is the first and only frame that’s dropped.

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>>4307506
Learn to fucking read in your own language, Ameritard
I speak four languages
You speak only one and BARELY, since you can't comprehend a clearly written comment in a mongolian basket weaving forum
But I'll dumb it down for you:
>I made some test shots
>They're first attempts
>There's lots of room for improvement
>Because they're tests
>Tests are made so that we can understand how things behave
If I knew beforehand how to shoot perfectly without even attempting to do so I'd be either truly lucky or a fucking god
>learn to take criticism
I'm all open for criticism, not for a dumbfuck expecting me to get a masterpiece while doing test shots

>>4307517
I'm sorry, I believe I'm not following, what do you mean?
I don't have an instax back, I'm just taping the instax film to the open back of my Mamiya
I wanted a fresnel so that I could put it right where the instax film would be, so that I could focus directly on it and then replace it with the film itself
>Also, I think the blurred cityscape could be cool for a silhouette double exposure
Cool idea, I'll try and do that when I get more instant film!

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>>4307586

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>>4307627
Kino

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>>4307501
Based. I bought a lomograflok to adapt to my gx680 and even got an amazon subscription for instax wide going for the last few months, but my lazy ass hasn’t gotten around to it yet lmao. At least the film pile is building up. Maybe this will be the weekend…

>>4307635
GODDAMN LOOK AT THAT BIG BITCH.

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>>4307637
She’s sexy and she knows it. I’ve also tried shooting 35mm through it, and it is fun when you don’t fuck up the development kek.

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>>4307640
Have you tried schiempflugging her? I'm sure she would love it.

>>4307641
Nothing captured on film yet, since I’m waffling on what kind of tripod head I want to get for it (gear vs ball), but you better believe I’ve fingered all those knobs plenty.

>>4307648
GEARED! The arca swiss cube is an absolute dream to work with. Some may say it is a bit slow or heavy, but it is so worth it, especially for a more technically advanced camera like gx680.

Do you know how many degrees of tilt you get, and do all the lenses provide full coverage for the max amount of movement?

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>>4307658
>arca cube
Anon I wish I had money diarrhea out of my ass but alas, I do not. Maybe I can find a chinkoid knockoff.
>do all the lenses provide coverage
Almost. The system was designed around the movements so only the 50mm ultra wide can’t take full advantage due to image circle. The 500mm tele and 100-200 zoom also can’t use movements, but those are physical mounting contraints, I believe their image circles are still technically capable. You only get 12deg of tilts in either direction, not too much, and 15mm hor/13mm vert shift. Certainly not as capable as a full LF but a enough for some flexibility. For my uses it’s plenty. Plus I just wanted it partly for the “it’s fucking huge” aspect lol.

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>>4307623
Holding the screen up to the film plane like pic related, but >>4307526 is probably right it might have different distance than the Instax film.

drying a test roll of Kentmere Pan 100 through the Moskva-5 lads
the last frame got fucked in dev dunno what happened but it's the first time I spooled a roll non-tape end first

>>4307665
this is also the first roll (120 or 135) I've agitated at a very 'gentle' agitation than my 'normal' agitation so I wonder if that played a part

>>4307660
Yeah... I don't know any other geared tripod head options. I'm sure there's some good ones that don't have an 80lb capacity like the cube that are reasonably priced... A geared head really is a great investment.

Ahh, so the movements are more like a tilt/shift lens than a full on view camera. With some of my largest projection lenses I can tilt like 30+ degrees, and shift like 4 or 5 inches. Still pretty neat it's built in to the camera. I could see it being very useful for certain applications, and you can probably get the miniature effect with it as well!

I got 38 shots on a 24exp roll of Delta 400 this week.
So either its wrongly marked and is really a 36Exp, or I loaded it wrong and it slipped. Given it was my first film in the LX i just got, I probably got it wrong, I'll find out this weekend when I process it, have not heard of an LX slipping film before.

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>>4307674
Depending on how you load the film, you can sometimes squeeze an extra shot or two out of the leader, but beware light leaks and stuff like that. picrel

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>>4307674
>its wrongly marked and is really a 36Exp
highly unlikely.

>>4307101
this photo is great. lots of soul I can feel like im actually at this ghetto corner store
im not being sarcastic btw

>>4307674
prepare for overlapped photos or double exposures

>>4307674
There is enough lead to get the number of shots indicated on any 135 film camera. Getting 1-2+ extra is normal, depending of the camera. It's possible to squeeze one more by loading the film in dark so the first snap is not fogged. But there is a risk of unlimited exposures on the first frame of film only.

>>4307635
>getting the III instead of the II.

>>4307733
>The changes result in a much lighter body compared to the previous models.
seems like a nobrainer to me

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Thank you all for the inputs
I got a shard of fresnel that was lying around at my local lab, which is enough to just focus properly on what I want
I simply cut out its shape on the protection cover that comes with the film cartridge and taped it. This way I believe it will be exactly where the instant film would be (or at least very close to it)
I'm gonna make up a holder so that I can easily place the instant film
Picrel is my improvised setup
Bottom image is the back fresnel in focus, and right image is how the same setup looks on the WLV of the camera (very unfocused)

>>4307526
>the challenge with these things is always getting the film the correct distance so that the focusing is accurate.
Exactly, it's really really close to where film would normally be but that small shift still makes a huge difference, see picrel

>>4307663
aah got it. Yeah that's what I was talking about when I mentioned the fresnel etc.
But just taking out the fresnel from the top of the Mamiya and putting it on its back would still be misplaced

>>4307581
>>4307635
I'm happy to see more people experimenting with instant film, I love seeing techniques pushed to their limits

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>>4307737
With less movement/features. You're already going for a behemoth, opting for the one the one with less control at the cost of slightly less weight is counter intuitive when going for a camera that's literally that size because of the LF-esq features. It's a little stupid to rationalize weight now when you're already going for that model. But I guess whatever helps you think you made the right choice. At this point go for the Pro S, fuck it save a little more weight or is that too light now?

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>>4307741
I’m not the guy you’re responding to, but I am the one with the gx680 and ackshually anon I have a mki and mkiii I bought in a package deal, but the i is currently on the workbench for battery replacement. But to your point, I’m not sure what you are referring to with “less features and less control”, they both have the same tilts and swings. Perhaps you’re thinking of the gx680iiiS which was a fixed lens board model as you seem to describe.

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>>4307741
>With less movement/features.
Aren't you confusing the III with the IIIs anon?

>>4307744
II has more features (and less prone to issues)than the III, the III has tilt shift and vertical while the IIIs does not. Hope that cleared it up for you.

>Captcha DWRTRD

lmao

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>>4307740
>Arts & Crafts update
I had an extra >rotating graflok part >>4307526 lying around
Got a piece of paper, some tape, a ruler and a blade and came up with this film support
It has a paper "guide" on the inside part to lead the film and keep it in place
Also has a "window" for the fresnel support I made this morning
So the plan is to frame the photo using the viewfinder on the camera, and then refocus it properly using the fresnel shard at the back using this whole contraption
Then I just have to replace the fresnel thing with the actual film and shoot it (in the dark, obviously)
>p.s. yes, I learned my lesson about emulsion side on instax films, the right photo is just so that I can show the framing

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>>4307538
>>4307543
Not everyone has a tilt lens anon....
Probably would be easier to increase DOF.
Also, that's not even what "boke" is! Are you pretending to be retarded? Be ashamed!
>>4307545
>>4307541
>>4307530
>>4307529
I like them a lot :)

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I went on down to the audubon zoo

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>>4307825
>Not everyone has a tilt lens anon....
the other guy's LF has bellows tho fucktard
>Probably would be easier to increase DOF.
pleb

>>4307836
that poor cat
>built to run at high speeds and cover large areas everyday
>forced to live in a tiny enclosure
>subjected to be shot by a faggot
>very poorly framed
>tilted
>overexposed
such a majestic cat reduced to this

>>4307848
you seem upset

>>4307848
Revenge for all the cavemen who died fighting them

>>4307848
furry paws wrote this

>>4307809
Do you know what those missing features are anon? I can’t find a good comparison of the two and am curious to know.

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>>4307674
>LX
this is why I stopped buying pentacks, the manual focus bodies seem to have a habit of losing tension in the takeup spool.
and the AF bodies all break their mirror gears.
I shoot a ricoh body now if I want to use a k-mount lense
>hope you didn't pay too much for it...

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>>4307883
Do PK bodies really break that much?

I was looking at a LX and seemed nice but fuck, I wanted it as a backup for my Praktica B200. I love the thing but you never know.

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>>4307809
are the missing features with us in the room right now anon?

>>4307898
>LX
All you need is an OM-4Ti. The definitive manual focus camera.

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>>4307062
recent shots, mamiya 645

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>>4307965

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>>4307966

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>>4307967

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>>4307965
>>4307966
Absolute mood kino

>>4307973
thank you anon

>>4307965
>>4307966
>>4307967
Fantastic.

>>4307966
Pure fucking kino

>>4307966
I like it, I would have pulled the black point down tho but that's just personal preference.

>>4307965
C'est magifique. What film?

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>>4307919
The Olympus still has a shitty side-scrolling shutter, and the best lense for the system is a 50/2 made of fucking unicorn tears.
I like it for the meter and the rewind being on the top, but no good fast, long or wide lenses puts it on the shelf in 2024.
A working LX is a perfectly lovely camera, but same issue with lenses; K-mount died in the 90s.
Nikon FM3a is the true goated manual focus camera. Shoot modern Zeiss/Cosina lenses and you are getting the best possible IQ on an MF 35mm SLR, and the newest one, and the finest mechanical shutter ever produced, and ttl flash, and interchangeable finders, and AEL.
Real ones use this, or Leica if they don't care about framing or anything closer than 3 feet, or Canon EF if they're comfortable letting a 20yo machine focus for them.

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>>4308016
Its fucking upsetting how good native lenses are for manual focus Nikons.
I stumbled into the mount with the F3 and later my FE2 and I've just never found a reason to switch despite wanting to try new systems. It just tickles every need with no real downsides.

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R8 my cat. Bought a canon a1 this week after a decade hiatus from film, took this pic this morning and developed it myself (first attempt), shits heaps of fun.

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finally got a nice even light box delivered to try "scanning" with my EOS R and it's night and day compared to my canoscan flatbed. picrel is a shitty test frame i've clipped and been using a lot so it's pretty scratched up and dirty now, but still. The best i could get the scanner still looked a bit soft. For 20bucks it cost me i ain't even mad, may still use it to bulk scan as a "contact sheet" type thing to see if any shots stand out to set up the camera for. i don't have a dedicated proper setup for the camera yet so for the meantime. still, impressed.

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Nikon F4, 50mm f/1.2 AI-S, Fuji Color 200

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what's the best way to deal with reflections and stuff when shooting through windows?

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>>4308117
circular polarizing filter

test

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>>4308017
I don't find it upsetting, I think it's incredibly based that you could have put together a kit 40 years ago and have it still be all you'd ever need.
Seriously, short of someone coming out with a brand new film camera that uses a laser rangefinder to focus mirrorless lenses, or calculates reciprocity, or has a built in set of nds and polarisers or focus magnifiers, compensated focus shift, etc
>ie some shit we've never seen before that would completely change how you shot landscape or the glass you use
I can't see myself ever changing the cameras I prefer to use.

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Here to convert you heathens to Kodak 5222 film(even at my detriment to buying it).

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>>4308017
nikon is based. I eventually wanna own a F6 (currently a F4/5 user) but I'll be taking a sabbatical from film for a bit.

>>4308166
Just give the boys at pentax enough speed to make Tony Montana blush and a blank check. They'll come up with somthing