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This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

The ancients did nothing wrong
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>>16586434
>There is no evidence of causation between childhood sexual abuse and homosexuality or pedophilia
>PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FAG WITH THE YOUNG BOY BEHIND THE CURTAIN
No. You will get what you deserve
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>>16586493
People on 4chan have done it for years, newfag.
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>>16586501
>People on 4chan have done it for years, newfag.
And I see trapfags getting butthurt when they do it. Linetrap was called a trap before trooning out.

Of course, maybe things are different on /b/ and the the porn boards, but I usually don't even lurk those boads.
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>>16586472
>How many of those boy lovers are proper gay men (androphiles) and how many are "bi"sexuals and victims of child abuse?
The 3% number I quoted was for gays specifically. There's also almost no overlap between boy lovers and girl lovers, bisexuality is far less prominent among pedophiles than teleiophiles.
>"bi"sexual men and the victim of child abuse "gay" men who got molested as children and then became part of a vicious circle of kiddy diddlers.
Not a thing.

>>16586494
>PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE FAG WITH THE YOUNG BOY BEHIND THE CURTAIN
I never said this. What I said is that the odds that the young boy grows up to be a homosexual or pedophile are less than 5%, because there's no evidence that either is caused by sexual abuse.
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>>16586559
>What I said is that the odds that the young boy grows up to be a homosexual or pedophile are less than 5%, because there's no evidence that either is caused by sexual abuse
What about all the fags that say they were molested as kids, does that count as evidence or is that too "homophobic"?

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This is what cultural collapse looks like.
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yeah

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Pictured: the end of America
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>he's a brainless politician!
He wasn't
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Pretending the timeline would have unfolded any differently had the Kennedy survived is a cope. You probably think the Roman republic would have kept on ticking if not for that one person, Caesar
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the deep state makes itself known :)
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>>16585652
there is not a way in which kennedy could have survived. that's the point. the illusion was gone.
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>>16585632
Pictured: the climax of America

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Why didn't the greekoids abandon their worthless identity and assimilate as Venetians?
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>>16585939
It's about quality not quantity greekoid. And the Venetians have plenty of quantity as well
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>>16585939
>Byzantines held way more territory than Venice, Byzantines created the biggest dome structure in the world, Byzantines preserved ancient texts in the bazillions, Byzantines created the Suda, Byzantines created military treatises, Byzantines were the best mosaicists of their time,
Lmao this is all you can name. That is pathetic
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>>16585951
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>>16585964
Stop with the samefagging, Giuseppe, Greeks ruled themselves from 1550 BC until 1453 AD - 150 BC-450 AD = 2400 years, so more than 2* muh swampniggers. Quantity?? You ask of quantity, bitch? When did Venetians write a book as influential as Euclides’ elements? Did they come up with Archimedes’ principle and the foundation of fluid dynamics?? Did they invent hydraulic organs, fire hoose, tradmill cranes, greek fire, catapults??Conic sections? Diophantine equations? Did they write something that rivals with Arisoteles, who came up with formal logic?? What Venetian writings compare with the Homeric poems? The autobiography of that pervert Casanova? Give me a fucking break man, quality? You don’t wanna go there, you samefagging spaghetti slurping ape, we’ve got tired of you spamming muh epic Dandolo meme a LOOOOOOONG ago
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>>16585626
Venice was like other mercantile republics (Netherlands and England), they weren't interested in assimilating foreiginers into their culture. Venice thrived on trade from their high-trust communal background.
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>>16586008
No they didn't
Myceneans got conquered in the late bronze age and their scrips was literally forgotten until a brit deciphered it recently
Them emerged in the archaic and classical period only to be conquered and ruled by barbarian greekized macedonians
And then the romans, byzantium whose dynasties originated from literally everywhere except greece, venetians, genoese, florentines, other italian families, french latins, basques, catalans, slavs, serbs, bulgars, turks, bavarians, danes, etc

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Are you afraid of death /his/?
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I'm scared to die but being dead doesn't frighten me. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, but the thought of perishing, especially painfully, is pretty unpleasant.
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>>16585729

No.
I went through a near-death experience, went through a deep coma, and I still remember the part of seeing/feeling what death is.

You don't have anything to fear for, Anon.
None of you, actually.

It's a shame we, as a specie, still haven't normalized extrajudicial killings for the nimrods with " authority" or "delegated authority" that torture us while alive, just because they wear a certain uniform/attire, title, position, or family/clan/entourage connections.
None of that matters where we all going. And I do mean all, just the tragedy of making our lives miserable in the meantime.


I'm sorry for all of you that had to be mutilated & are coerced to go through filters just to form cohesive groups. I really do.
None of that matters where we all going.
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>>16586000
To die, to sleep—
To sleep—perchance to dream. Ay, there’s the rub!
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause—there’s the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
The pangs of disprized love, the law’s delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make

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You need to be afraid of death by default to better avoid it.
We have this fear built-in even, pain is made unbearable to keep us away from harm. We have reflexes such as uneasiness around potentially dangerous beasts, venomous critters and high places. When people freak out around us we freak out too even if not knowing why.
It's all part of our survival instinct, innate fear of Death.

Fear is not something you reject, it's something you embrace and overcome through its instrumentalization. By mastering your fears you remove the irrationality without removing the beneficial effect it grants. Subconscious high awarness, alert to early signs of danger and instant reflexes.

But then there is potential and then there is certain Death, the kind which is not avoidable. Terminal diseases or injuries, old age... In that case fear can no longer be of aid and acceptance is all there is left to achieve.....
UNLESS you are ambitious enough to fight against what people assume is Fate. Technologies and medical science keeps improving extanding our reach and granting us new options!.... Tho while these may be grand dreams they remain mere dreams... as of yet.
Otherwise if you accept that struggling is vain for your case, you should start thinking of what to do with *the time you have left*. What about an *after* what are you *leaving behind*. With those objectives in mind you should quiet down your fear just enough so it doesn't impede on the use of your last hours and the making of your will while keeping you aware of the approaching *dead*line.

Make use of what you have left while you still can.
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>>16585729
I have a horrifying thought that death is an amagimation of your lived experience.

I sit around in an office, all day every day.

Imagine the backrooms being your reality because it was just assumed "you guys love this shit!"

>But they’re a cult!

Ad hominem.

>But if they’re such a good religion more people would have converted!

Argumentum ad populum.

>The council of Nicea says the trinity is real!

Appeal to authority.

>But there was the time when they were wrong!

Poisoning the well fallacy.

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>>16586531
https://www.billionbibles.com/jehovahs-witnesses/john-1-1-refuting-jehovahs-witnesses.html
Alright. Stop lying now reprobate.
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>>16586550

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/bible-verses/john-1-1/
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French calls all religions "cultes"
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>>16586567
That is correct! In French, the word "culte" is often used to refer to religions in general.
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>>16586560
https://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/jehovah-witnesses-and-john-2028/
So why did Thomas say to Jesus, my lord and my GOD?

>Jesus the Nazarene (may his bones be ground to dust)
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>>16586578
Didn't his brother die in a shipwreck?
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Least spammy /his/post
What a pathetic board

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Shueisha has revealed newly-drawn covers for 'Gakushu Manga: Sekai no Rekishi', a history-learning series renewed for the first time in 22 years. This project commemorates Shueisha's 100th Anniversary. All books will be released on October 4th, 2024.
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Source:

https://kids.shueisha.co.jp/sekaishi/
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Here's the full list of volumes:

>1. 'Orient and Mediterranean Civilizations' by Yasuhisa Hara (Kingdom)

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Ever notice how Christians turn into moral relativists when it suits them?
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>>16586506
You're casting pearls before swine, brother.
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>>16586480
Galatians 3:17-18 says:

"And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise."
(Galatians 3:17-18)

Also related is what Paul says in Romans 9:

"Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."
(Romans 9:6-8)

>Well, Him and those who have become His brothers and co-inheritors by adoption as sons.

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>>16586539
Why would you interpret yourself and the other readers as swine?
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>>16586557
Right.
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>>16586506
>The events of Revelation 7 happen after this, since it says all of them "came out of great tribulation." So the 144,000 are actually resurrected people from Old Testament times.

Wrong... It doesn't mean that at all.

It is true that there will be people ruling in the millennium with Christ. These people will be comprised of the church (believers in Jesus Christ, 1 Corinthians 6:2), Old Testament saints (believers who died before Christ’s first advent, Daniel 7:27), and tribulation saints (those who accept Christ during the tribulation, Revelation 20:4). Yet the Bible places no numerical limit on this group of people. Furthermore, the millennium is different from the eternal state, which will be established at the completion of the millennial period. At that time, God will dwell with us in the New Jerusalem. He will be our God, and we will be His people (Revelation 21:3). The inheritance promised to us in Christ and sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13–14) will become ours, and we will be co-heirs with Christ (Romans 8:17).

These 144,000 are specifically named by their respective tribes of Israel. Twelve thousand from each tribe are indicated. Jacob had twelve sons from whom the twelve tribes of Israel originated.

So Jew worship lol.

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The veterans of Korean war must have had off-the-charts amount of PTSD after dealing with the human wave attacks and the endless rush of Chinese ”volunteers”. But why it is so rarely talked about when compared to Vietnam? Yeah, Vietnam is more recent, but Vietnam is still remembered today while Korean War got forgotten much faster.
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>>16584611
>They unironically viewed Vietnam as a preferable alternative to facing a country and people that did not want them.
That’s not true though. They were drafted against their will and thought of themselves as part of the counterculture because of that
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>>16586185
Viets are stronger than Koreans who are stronger than Chinese, averages
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>>16584577
>The soldiers of the Confederacy lost their war, but upon their return they were generally greeted and supported warmly by those for whom they had fought. Korean War veterans had no memorials and precious few parades, but they fought an invading army, not an insurgency, and they left behind them the free, healthy, thriving, and grateful nation of South Korea as their legacy. No one spat on them or called them murderers or baby killers when they returned.
>"Hell yes. . . . You can't go through that without being influenced." The Vietnam veteran's defensive response to a nation accusing him of being a baby killer and murderer is consistently, as it was to Mantell and has been so many times to me, "No, it never really bothered me. . . . You get used to it." This defensive repression and denial of emotions appear to have been one of the major causes of post-traumatic stress disorder.
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>>16584611
Were they actually denied jobs? Is that why job application forms have the "I am a protected veteran" checkbox in the list of the rest of their diversity "survey" questions?

>>16584645
I've met quite a few Chinese Christians back in my christcuck days and they were 1000% more fervently religious than the average white churchgoer I knew. Whenever I met an asian american who was actually extroverted and athletic 99.99% of the time they were christian. I guess that's what the Pearl S Buck novels were about? I wonder what it would have been like to have such a large fervently protestant country. Like some sort of giga South Korea
>>16586040
Was he referring to during the Korean war, during the sino-soviet border war, or in 1978?
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>>16586365
>I guess that's what the Pearl S Buck novels were about?
what Pearl Buck did was portray Chinese peasants in within a easily-digestible simplistic Westernized McDonalds-ized™ series of books that the American public swallowed up like hot cakes. "Chinks: they're JUST like us!"
unfortunately, she wrote the book just as a massive hatred in China against Westerners and their Christianity began to swell up. British and American missionaries were detested by the vast majority of the Chinese populace and Christianity didn't make much relevant headway/converts. Pearl Buck herself described how her missionary parents were often run out of town by angry chink mobs after preaching a little too hard

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Was Tenochtitlan the city founded by the evil Enoch
>Genesis 4:16~17 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch.
T(enoch)titlan. It seems to match
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>>16585574
There are two Enochs. The Enoch of Cain's line is the evil Enoch.
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>>16585563
Tenochtitlan was founded in the late 13th or early 14th century AD, so that's quite unlikely.
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>>16585563


YES, BUT HE WAS NOT EVIL; THE SETHITES ARE THE EVIL ONES, NOT THE CAINITES.

THE TENOCHCAS BECAME CANNIBALISTIC DEMONISTS DUE TO SETHITE SUBVERSION OF TOLTEC MORALITY.
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>>16586463
That is a contradiction of scripture
>Genesis 5: 18~24 And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch: And Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died. And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
The Enoch who was the son of Jared was the one who was taken up by God. The Enoch who was the son of Cain was the one who built the city. If the Enoch of Seth's line was the blessed one, then what of the other Enoch, whose father was a murderer? Cain's murder of Abel could also be interpreted as the first human sacrifice.
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>>16586440
Do you have any sources on those datings?

Discuss.
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>>16586566
>The Road to Canossa or Humiliation of Canossa was the journey of the Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV to Canossa Castle in 1077, and his subsequent ritual submission there to Pope Gregory VII. It took place during the Investiture controversy and involved the Emperor seeking absolution and the revocation of his excommunication by the Pope who had been staying at the castle as the guest of Margravine Matilda of Tuscany.
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>>16586566
If God is real then why didn't the German emperors unite all of Christendom and rule over all popes and kings like an omnipotent caliph? Why must we live in such a cruel world?
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>>16586574
unironically

>Loves nature
>Hates technology and what its doing to humanity and the world
>Claims to be blowing up people for the good of the world
>Blows up random people at colleges and attempts to blow up passenger jets

Why didn't he just actually go after people actively harming the planet like oil companies, plastic manufacturers, mining and logging companies etc. Sounds like he was justifying his hatred of people under the guise of environmental protection.
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>>16586380
a combination of genetics and not eating the bugs
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>>16586310
So you're saying his narcissistic moid brain went AGP because the girl he loved (not liked, men inherently struggle to like women as humans, very few men can go beyond loving, i.e obsessing over women as objects) and NOT because of institutionalized troonery?
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>>16586496
i dont know what does terms mean English is my second language
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>>16586516
What terms?
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>>16586556
moid brain and agp

What’s the point ?
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>>16586164
Infinite seethe generator, despite being largely irrelevant. Arabs and Steppe Hordes have actively done more throughout history to be a blight upon civilization. Nogs don't destroy civilization by themsleves, in fact they barely ventured above the Sahara, its the fault of Arabs and Europeans exporting them everywhere because they were too lazy to work for themselves.
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I think exploring it in the 19th century would have been pretty kino. In this way Africa functions as a sort of final frontier, an alien planet here on earth. Now that it has been mapped it serves no purpose: Prestor John is, metaphorically speaking, dead.
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>>16586205
>its the fault of Arabs and Europeans exporting them everywhere because they were too lazy to work for themselves.

This is actually true.
Middle & upper class (nevermind aristocrats) people would never agree to see their sons or and daughters work jobs in horrid conditions that have subjected the native slaves & the foreign-imported ones.
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>>16586164
What's the point of what?
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>>16586164
worshipping niggers to the point you created them out of thin air


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