What happy meal toy or unreleased TF would you like to see redone today?>Upcoming Transformershttps://pastebin.com/Yh1WYBU1 >Leaks and Rumorshttps://pastebin.com/tXVnBQsu >Online Stores for TFshttps://pastebin.com/3raSp3ZY >Where to watch TF shows:https://pastebin.com/xiX5Q7SE >Transformers General Archives:https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/%2Ftfg%2F%20-%20Transformers%20General/>New thread on page 9 or 10 or image limit. Any thread that doesn't say this and does not adhere to it or lacks the pastebins is not a legit /tfg/ threadPrevious thread>>10972026
>>10977705>unreleased TF would you like to see redone todayBut not redone, I want them just as they are here. Never ever.
>>10977783yeah that looks fine! a clever triplechanger.
His gun is so long it borders on ridiculous. I love this guy, I wanna get Bee or Cliffjumper next. Sandstorm is still bleh.
>>10977819which is that one?
>>10977820ThreeZero MDLX.>>10977819I actually don't really like either of his weapons, honestly.
>>10977819sniper prime
>>10977822He's so small. I thought those things would be bigger for the price lol
>>10977500Thanks for reminding me of my Fort MaxxI need to get the Toyhax decals to dress him up
Why can't transformers toys just release a single line of toys and why doesn't one company handle it? Why is there not a single company in charge offering good customer service? I mean look at Legos, why can't transformers be like that? Why is it so fucking difficult to collect these toys? It seems like it's more trouble than it's worth.
>>10977854Small indie toy company from Pawtucket, please understand.
>"hey dude, how's the rock-ombiner program going?">"desu some of the engineers think we're at a dead end..."
>>10977859>"what do you think, Geoptimus Primal?">*loud primordial grunting*>"he says we should probably scrap the whole project and start over.">"*sigh* yeah alright."
>>10977861ROCK! polly shouldn't be!
>>10977819I'm pretty sure I bought an identical axe from one of those chinks that 3-D prints overpriced accessories for Transformers on ebay. Like over a year ago. Did the chinks steal the design from somewhere official first, or did threezero steal it from the chinks? This is not the first time I've seen this happen.
>>10977870Doing a google image search for "Transformers Optimus Prime Axe" and going with a result sounds entirely possible.
>>10977829He was only $10 more then Sandstorm. The expensive ones are the 12 inchers
>>10977864this post is better than it has any right to be
>>10977819Doesn't transform, garbage.
This is still my favorite Hot Rod/Rodimus toy.
>>10977783ngl I bought Legacy Animated Optimus because of the DNA Powermaster kit.
>>10977705Sweet fuck, that's an old memory. I used to have this toy. I might still have it somewhere.
Anyone else's 86 Sludge's knees go really loose?I transformed him for the first time in a while and the poor guy can barely stand
>>10977857>PawtucketHasbro is a garbage company though and they never have anything in stock
>>10977944BASED.
>>10977944based and checked
>>10977978I always wished they made more like those first McDonalds BW figures. Tiny transformable beasts for $2-3. The transmetal happy meal toys were a step down.
>"Jesus Christ, Optimus, what happened to you?!">"I don't want to talk about it. the reason I'm here is because I know your lab is secretly building the Toa of Air Mask and it's got to stop">"But we're so close!"
>>10978031I mean this is not a satisfactory toy, but they were fucking fun by happy meal standards. Take it as a template and give us the real deal.
>>10978033that actually looks like a face. a hideous neon face
>>10977999Mine doesn't have it but the loose knees seems to be a common issue.
>>10977822I wonder how the RED rifle would look on it, I know I have a broken Magnus and his parts stashed somewhere.
>>10978048TREMBLE BEFORE THE MIGHT OF THESE GOOGLE PHOTO WIND POWERS!
>>10978082that looks.. weirdly perfectly lit.
>>10978082>anon discovers the secret head modeI wonder if the bottom portion of it will be 2 more deluxes or a voyager
>Dodge the name kerfuffle by doing both in a pack
>>10978082>"ok so the entire production team is in love with Arcee. why wouldn't they be? she's beautiful; she's nice, and she's a professional who doesn't waste their time. so one day on set she says, as an aside, 'wouldnt he be scarier if he had hair?' and they all stay up all night to make the new mask and then we had a movie..."
>>10978175there better be a lapdance scene
>>10978155Is it dirty?
>>10978175>"anyway, 'Bionicle Cannibal Baby Feast II: the Feastesning' was probably the most fun I ever had in the industry."
>>10978175Shard really, really wanted Arcee inside her, didn't she?
repostanhow does legacy skullgrin scale with chug thunderwing please
>>10978303I have both don't want to dig out thunderwingbut he's probably shorterand not worth itpic related?
>>10977944He's in my top 3. Not sure which is my favorite, actually. All I know is it's probably not the MP.
>>10977944This guy is pretty neat. I got him recently as a gift. sure wish the Fansproject armor was still easily available
>>10978312TR Astrotrain works better as Thunderwing.
>>10977944I wish we got Side Burn from the voyager Hot Rod with a new dedicated head and better deco than the fucking one we got for United.
>>10978354Interesting choices! The Henkei/Classics is not really a fun toy to pose or play with, but it looked good then and still does now. The Titans Return one kind of has long arm syndrome, but I really liked it for a while.My own choices are probably the Studio Series and Animated. Animated Roddy was a freakin great toy.
>>10978390there's a face only a mother could lovesometimes they had trouble translating wyatt's art..
>>10978392I think it looks sorta simian, which I kind of like.
>>10978303skullgrin is a little taller, and a little bulkier than thunderwing, but the head size difference is... comical
>>10978392I think when you use silver paint on faces it tends to look weirdTFA artstyle seems very inspired by the justice league show
>>10978312>>10978376The superior Thunderwing body
>>10978390>Animated Roddy was a freakin great toy.I have him but he's rather top-heavy, shelved him once I got SS86. What do you like about him? Make me feel joy for him again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9CQ-bccGY4
>>10978457I like his whole look. He's wide and stocky up top, with thin little legs on the bottom. He has the classic himbo physique. He is way more articulated than usual for the time, including stuff like ball + hinge wrists, ball ankles, hinge and ball elbows, etc. You can even cheat him into some extreme poses by using his mid-shin transformation joint to "break" his leg.His car mode is sleek as hell, with no visible signs of robot. Big beautiful windscreen. Fun to roll around. I think he was one of the highlights of the Animated line for me, and that's saying a lot since I hold the majority of the line in high regard.
>>10978525Oh, and I forgot: simple and intuitive transformation. There are a few little interesting bits, but it's pretty easy to figure out and fun to do. That's my favorite kind of transformer, the type that's chill to just re-figure out every time you get it out.
>>10978401Nah, too bayverse-esque.
>>10978525>He has the classic himbo physique.P-please never say that again.I'll try to pose him around again, and I'll admit, I did like the car mode. I just remember he was top-heavy and I sidelined his weapon almost immediately.>>10978526But yeah, he has his legs tucked in under the hood iirc and just have to swing them out. I also liked being able to flip the engine around for the Autobot logo. Maybe I'll dig him out sometime, thanks anon.
>>10978401Studio Series Thundercracker with the Titans Return "Overboard" (Overkill) head is a great matching set.
Worth buying for 20? Haven't bought him because he doesn't have his minicon.
>>10978673He is okay for that price if you don't have character attachment. Thigh is rather loose.
>>10978673Buy the 3rd party one instead if you don’t mind a smaller scaleHe’s much better
>>10978688>ME NEED BIGLY TOY FOR MY LITTLE HANDSsize queens have to go
>>10978673I bought it on sale too and don't regret it.
>>10978673Nothing amazing but a fun toy, next year gets blue deco.
Well since >>10978688 loves talking about bootlegs, i'm also wondering if I should pick up this KO as a replacement minicon Swindle. Different chest spoiler and about 2x larger at 10cm.
a goatee???
>>10978718It is how you know he is a boy compared to Skywarp and Nova Storm. But hey, this has to be one that isn't just a repaint of Cyberverse Starscream since this didn't exist then. Although the robot mode is an incredibly poor likeness in colors.
>>10978354Legends Hot Tod is such a cool version, Really love the translucent flame on his chest. It's almost like he's a UT era design. Never had much love for the Classics one, though. It always felt dated, even for the era
>>10978718>troonspark
>>10978724>Hot Tod
>>10978704Yessss!!! He’s sooooo cute!!
>>10978735>tfw no hot rod full of hot tod
>I greentext so I belong now (ToT)
Regardless of scale, is there any Bayverse starscream that has ALL of the following?1. Bicep swivels 2. Wrist swivels 3. Ankle articulation Pretty sure there isnt..?
>>10978724>Never had much love for the Classics one, though. It always felt dated, even for the eraI guess that was part of the advantage of picking him up years after the fact. I full expected him to be "dated", but I was mostly buying him for how cool he looked. And he looks fuckin' cool.
>>10977944But he sucks ass.
>>10978724>Legends Hot TodI'm a slut for most of the LG Headmaster/Targetmasters, but particularly Hot Rod just because I feel like the gimmick suits him. I feel like he'd love becoming a little guy just to facilitate hanging out with Daniel or whoever. Hot Rod already has such a "designed by executives" vibe that I love the idea of just jamming every gimmick into him.I would love to see a hypothetical headmaster/targetmaster/powermaster/triple-changing/pretender Hot Rod.
>>10978802And the LG's targetmaster is a chinese girl.
>the red tentacles attacking Windsweeper and Breakdown on their box artThe fuck is that?
>>10978398i can see a few influences, but sure as hell not the faces
>>10978809Do you want to post this box art?
>>10978807Imagine Hot Rod as a Chinese girl robot though.
>>10978817Oh, sorry, thought someone had.They don't look like the Quints...
>>10978822Octopunch as a remold of something.
>>10978830The spider to crab is real?
>>10978837Or Skullgrin, just throw different 5mm backpack.
>>10978541i have always preferred mimbo.
>>10978354Best Roidmus figure, coming through
>>10978681UNDERsized third parties now?>>10978718is this what passes for a transformation? even for a little kid one that is sad.
>>10978843Would also need new legs to turn into claws.
>>10978846The point is for them to be the simplest transformations yet and just stick them on your finger. Complexity was never the goal.
>>10978849>stick them on your fingerokay..so what they normally do is make a relatively normal robot and fold it up into a terrible altmodethis is still a terrible altmode, so.. not having legs is pretty gay
>>10978850Hey, your loss. You haven't lived until you take two and make little finger puppet shows.>Hiya Mister Optimus!>Hiya Mister Megatron!>Did ya hear the one about guy who ran infront of a car?>Is he okay?>Yeah, he's just tired! Wakkawakkawakka....
>>10978856this is starting to grow on me..
>>10978688Everyday you post is a reminder that not only are you unfortunately still alive but that thankfully god's light failed to reach you and I am better than you for thatIt's another day I'm reminded that I'm lucky to have the ability to enjoy things and not have a seething meltdown and that I am loved by others
>>10978871god's light doesn't shine on you because you were a better person, dingus.
>>10978822Clawjaw or tako tank?
I like how Legacy Core Cheetor doesn't have a Universe designation.Like even Hasbro doesn't wanna acknowledge Beast Machines if they don't have to.
>>10978893You have memed this several times
>>10978895I've never posted that before, actually. If another Anon beat me to it I apologize.
>>10978845Any issues with that Catwoman?
>>10978845Wish they would do a crazy line like Cloud again. That whole idea of repaints/minor retools of lookalikes was genius, it's stupid they only used it as a whole subseries only like, once.
>>10978902None at all. Great figure.>>10978903I agree. I love the Cloud figured (I also have Shockwave), and would love to see more repaints in that spirit. It reminded me of all the cool stuff we got back in the day with the Universe line.
>>10978903Hell yes. Cloud 2.0/Universe 3.0 would be awesome.Not that it would ever happen as the mold is probably long gone but I always liked the idea of a Megatron out of Energon Bulkhead. I like Megs as a helicopter (Animated was cool and also gunships are about as close to a flying tank as you're gonna get) and I can see this mold working well in silver, black and red.
>>10978971this is... weirdly awesome.
>>10977705I'd gladly take those four (5 if you wanna do the under-3 one) as new characters, they can be a handful of Predacons/Maximals who woke up on their own and had their own little Beast Wars on the other side of the world or something.Given the small cast, they'd have to begrudgingly team up now and again, always mistrusting and backstabby.
>>10978986you know that could totally happen, especially if their area was rich with energon so the scanners never picked them up..
So are ankle tilts enough to "upgrade"?
>>10978987Gotta give 'em better names than "Rhino" and "Beetle" but yeah, they could be good frenemies in a limited story. I don't even think the teammates would like each other all that much, which would be funny and make faction lines more blurred.
>>10978990I don't have the original so yeah
>>10978990They fucked up all the cool chest shapes.
>>10978673It's solid.
>>10978990Maybe grab Excellion instead.
>>10978800I like it. Missing Link Hot Rod could dethrone it as my favorite though, so I hope it happens.
>>10978996I'd call them Grabstag and Stampede
>>10978990Aside from the waist and chest details he's genuinely near 1/1 the original Actually great
>>10979011every single piece is a squarer, boringer version of what was before.
>>10978990Interesting they made him brighter colors
>>10979006>Grabstag and StampedeYou're HIRED
>>10978990I think I prefer the old head sculpt, and the chest on the original is more interesting looking too. On the whole it looks fine though.
>>10979020radicalgod damn i wish i could work on a show like this. I can do vague designs! not good enough to make into a toy, but good enough for the people who make it into a toyand I can make threatening anonymous calls to the execs telling them to stop cutting corners on the toys and/or get them fired so their pay can go back into the toy budget
>>10978990Proportions look better on the old one. Anon was right about the shapes getting worse, look how that bold angular chestplate got turned into this dull rounded rectangle. The chest is even narrower, making him feel less heroic. It's also just more visually interesting somehow.
>>10979026Aspect Ratioshot
>Order an origins wheeljack from target.>Get magneous.wtf, why did I get sent a surprise box of rocks.Well, since I have one now, anyone ever paint up these new rock bits to look like real rock?
>>10979038Wait a sec, they sent you a deluxe for a voyager?
Are the Reactivate figures any good?
>>10979026Yeah, the new fake chest headlight look awful.
>>10979011They couldn't affor the panel to hide the backpack hollownes on the new one.
>>10979092SOUL vs souless
The only CHUG trainbot. Why are Hasbro so afraid of trains?
>>10979102Because trains are a Japan thing.
>>10979102Rail Racer PTSD.
>>10979102Trains are really big. When you say CHUG scale I assume you are ignoring the larger CHUG size classes. which would be appropriate for trains.
>>10979014Everything on the Original is that my guy
>>10979106This isn't about scale.
>>10979107not to my eye. i'm seeing widths at one end being different from widths at the other end, i'm seeing varying sized and shaped bumps..
Toy show haul from today
>>10979109what is CHUG if not a scaleare you saying you want trainbots at retail prices but you don't care how big they are?
>>10979115Cool, you got the famous Bumblebee.
>>10979117Do you really think that Classics Starscream and Mirage could be called in scale to each other?
>>10979115so coolyou gonna modify Cindersaur to give him a more monstery altmode?
>>10979119I don't know, man. I don't have those.every time I tried to get you people to explain chug to me, you said it was a scale
>>10979106>When you say CHUG scaleHe never said scale, CHUG used to mean mainline figure but we got so many lines it can gets confusing and ss86 made things worse, so take CHUG as non masterpiece or cartoon dedicated figure (ie Earthspark figures are not CHUG).
>>10979122ClassicsHenkei! Henkei!Universe (Called 2.0 to separate it from from the older Universe line) Generations
>>10979122CHUG is Classics/Henkei Henkei/Universe/Generations.So any old G1 character remade post 2006 and not part of a cartoon or movie-based line. Scale has nothing to do with it.
>>10979117>>10979122>what is CHUG if not a scaleSee >>10979126
>>10979115>>10979118God I love MurderBee
>>10979127and what do those have in common
>>10979129but universe and generations and henkei were based on cartoon all the time. at least the few i'm aware of.
>>10979042Yep, I've ordered a replacement of the exclusive voyager wheeljack, if they send another deluxe, I'm getting my money back.
Articulation isn't everything.
>>10979136>Although Hasbro had dabbled with nostalgia-based lines in the past—such as with the likes of the 2003 Universe line, Energon and Alternators—the back-to-basics approach used by Classics proved an unexpected hit with fans. Conceived as a short line of homages to bide time before the delayed release of the first live-action Transformers film, Classics modernized many popular characters, and after the runaway success of the first movie Hasbro followed it up with Universe, expanding its scope to cover characters from the likes of Beast Wars and Armada for the brand's 25th anniversary. TakaraTomy released their own version of these lines in the form of Henkei! Henkei!. By the time of Generations, fans widely used the acronym "CHUG" (Classics, Henkei!, Universe, Generations) to refer to these lines as a whole, or as a label for their shared aesthetic—but this acronym quickly stopped being comprehensive as more lines came and went (with various Generations sublines covering the vast majority of toys released in this design paradigm), and never made it into official use. And they never bothered trying to do any kind of scale with it until Siege in 2019.
>>10979060Yes. Soundwave is the weakest, prime is Second weakest due to kibble clearance issues and a stubby as shit rifle he can't hold. Best Bee and Starscream in a while.
>>10979133They are standard retail lines that are remakes of older guys mostly.
>>10979142none of those body parts go together>>10979143okay but then what did anon mean. complexity? like, price tier? why aren't there any mass-retail-release trainbots, is that what he meant?
>>10979146Probably. Hasbro doesn't do trains, thats pretty much a Japan-only hobby.Its why Takara went all out for the Masterpiece Raiden guys.
>>10979147except for all the huge flaws
>>10979149Well, yeah.Japan fucking LOVES trains.
>>10979115THE MURDERBEEI gave mine a 'con badge and treat him like another Nemesis Prime but for Bumblebee.
>>10979149They are completely accurate trains. Cannot be helped if they are based on a dodgy combiner.
>>10979147Of course Japan loves trains.Everybody gets inside and they all go to the same place together, based on someone else's decision.
>>10979153Trains used to be big in America, but then cars took over. There are some large cities that have subways with lots of riders.
>>10979155I feel like you missed the point of what I was sayingof course americans love cars. you get to go wherever you want at the time of your choosing.
>>10979060Yeah they’re pretty cool if you like the designs. Soundwave is probably the worst of the bunch with awkward proportions and no cassette/partner function. I’m personally not a fan of Starscream’s black painted sections of battle damage(?). Bee and Prime are pretty solid
>>10978809>>10978822It's a reference to the new Mayhem symbol from the IDW reboot. Which in itself is based on Octopunch since he was their leader.
>>10979168So where the hell is the new Octopunch?
>>10979170Not in the budget for the line.
>>10979168oh cool. well I want claw jaw anyway>>10979170yeah or octopunch>>10979171dammit
>>10979170The one listing had Knock Out when we actually got Breakdown, so there's still some room to cope that Bludgeon could actually be Octopunch
>>10979092You can stick anklerockers and waist joints all you want, it doesn't help a bland sculpt.
>>10979176There's no Voyager that could be retooled into Octopunch.
>>10979177with tiny wheelswheels and beast mode heads are so tiny these days
>>10979178the other chickenpretenders so far got to have their own sculpts.That said, this one's gonna be particularly rough. I mean maybe if you did more realistic crab pincers, you could rotate the claws to become two-toed feet... and MAYBE you could have the crab legs arranged SIMILARLY to the tentacles, but then there won't be any octo in his octopunch. plus a big ol head like that, where would it hide? I guess it could split in half and form part of the shell..
>>10979176A crab from Inferno or Bludgeon somehow sounds even less plausible than the recently pitch Tarantulas or Skullgrin.
>>10979170All we need is a new Seaspray.
>want to buy a large transformer>fuck it, I'll buy legacy metroplex for $110>but excavator mode sucks>but it's not original metroplexDon't care the robot and worker mode look cool. Still looks better than Maximus. Besides it's a titan for a hundred bucks basically.
>>10978990And much better, proper shoulder posability, don't gloss over that my guy.>>10979092Hm, overall he's definitely got less of the broad look of the original; he's notably slimmer and lithe-er, it seems. I'll wait for video reviews to judge the head, but on the whole, yeah, I dunno - he seems nice to me. Starscream also has similar proportional alterations, but everybody seems to love him and how he turned out, so I dunno.If you've already got the original and are happy with him I totally get not being enthused though, but fwiw I never had him, so I'll prolly pick this guy up. He seems cool to me.
>>10979214Just remember to check the shoulders before you break them just by using the joints.
>>10979222That sounds bad. What should I be looking for?
>>10979226it's a specific thing you have to do, unscrewing the shoulder and modifying a tab of plastic in there. there's instructions online with pictures.
>>10978990these kind of remind meon one hand, an elbow has no reason to be anything but a hinge (or even better, two hinges), but ball joints have the advantage of swiveling, and you can block unwanted movement by using a partial cowling on the socket.. but then ball joints can also loosen over time.Maybe if a hinge piece was attached via a swiveling socket, that would be the best compromise.
Might finally grab SS86 Perceptor. Any reason not to, or is it as solid as if looks?
>>10979115Who's the white skids repaint?
>>10979233That's what "bicep rotation" on modern toys is, yes, anon.
>>10979238Repack with two exclusive cassettes next year.
>>10979241Rollbar
>>10979242mmm no, most biceps rotation involves the upper arm clipping onto the shoulder via a mushroom peg. we're talking about the elbow here. it would give it wrist rotation if done on the forward end of the joint, or yes, something superficially similar to a biceps swivel if put on the end nearest to the body.
finally got my copy. phenomenal fig, and solid , even the chimera mode is solid. Stupid looking but solid
>>10979238It's solid but it's getting two repacks next year so it might be worth it to wait and see what they're like.
>>10979246i swear that giganoto head looks a different size every time I see it.
>>10979247>>10979243Didn't realize that. Good call.
>Galvatron still hanging around at $30It's tempting me.
>>10979246no thirdparty gap filler kits, surprising
dino modes still hit
I wasn't sure about getting him at the time, but every time I fiddle with Doubledealer I'm glad to have him.
>>10979269sometimes I have to look at shit like this and go "maybe our current beast modes aren't that bad"
>>10979269Now that the dust has settled, maybe this isn't getting a Machine Wars Soundwave retool.
>>10979250Which Galvatron?
just look at this motherfucker, dude's a beast
>>10979294Threebeast!
>>10979294his sword looks like a chainsaw.. that huge handle clearly has to have some useful mechanical shit inside. Maybe energy generator for glowy beam sword mode.
>>10979178What about Scourge?
>>10979299Clever as a kit, but I don't think they would sell something like that since it relies on additional parts.
>>10979302>don't think they would sell something like that since it relies on additional parts.Modulators, fossilizers, weaponizers and junkions do pretty much the same, those parts could be added to the main figure anyway, just like how they slapped beast legs into CW Silverbolt to make Turtler.
>>10979308yeah but this isn't that... it's kinda all or nothing with modularity and partsforming.
>>10979311Cliffjumper requires taking off part of his vehicle mode to robot. It's fine.
>>10979311>it's kinda all or nothing with modularity and partsforming.What about Cliffjumpers skies and bazooka? we also had parts of one bot being drones with prime soundwave and Deathsaurus, so they could do it.>>10979307Its TR Scourge, do you even buy figures?
>>10979318I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything positive about that figure beyond "I like Cliffjumper and this is a toy of him".
my question now is will Magmatron ever get his own throne? probably not but it's nice to dream. I need all my Emperors of Destruction to have a throne to sit on and have them all sit together in a big line
>>10979318if it feels like accessories, it's okay. but once it starts feeling like fuckin.. -parts.- that's different.>>10979326how's he gonna sit on a throne with that tail?at most, he could sit on one of those S.T.U.N. Runner machines.
>>10979330yea, that's why I said that the throne is never gonna happen but its nice to dream. if there was an attempt, there would have to be a huge ass hole at the center of the throne to accomodate the tail and it would just look good when he's sitting in it
>>10979338and when he wasn't sitting in it, other transformers could use it as a tolitmite b amusing.>Magmatron holding little Snapper over the bowl
>>10979273Legacy's repack. I'm pretty sure the Generations Selects recolor is fairly cheap on Amazon too though.
>>10979353There's a SS86 Galvatron coming next year too.
>>10979354I forgot about that. I can't keep up with leaked listings. I wonder how different it will be. It gives me hope for an improved Rodimus, though I'm not holding my breath.
As cool as these look I wish they would handle the head a little differently. It's by far the weakest aspect of the originals. Still an easy buy for me though.
>>10977705And that's why we get the abrasive Depth Charge later on.On a different note, are we getting more rocks later in United? I have a feeling we'll get another combiner like Junkasaurus.
>>10979361Will they go as deep as Impossible toys?
>>10979363The only thing in common is being a ray. Rampage wasn't because of Razorclaw.
>>10979366yeah though it is entirely possibru that they were both the same idea going way back, and just got pulled out and modified.
>>10979330>how's he gonna sit on a throne with that tail?forget the tail, how is he gonna lean back with the seasaurus neck?
>Razorclaw-Fiddler Crab>Rampage-King Crab>Tantrum- Giant Isopod>Headstrong- Generalized thing that looks like a mixture of a spiny lobster and a Pistol Shrimp>Divebomb-AnomalocarisHire me John Warden
>>10979377that can be moved..
>>10979365Wouldn't surprise me. I'm curious to see what redecos they do for Optimus too. It feels weird that the toys I'm most excited for are spruced up versions of 40 year old toys.
>>10979361oh wow the legs actually split now
>>10979355When it was ss86 Galvatron was brought up to the team, they implied it wouldn't be too different.
>>10979439It's the same mold but you make Leonard Nimoy voices when playing with it.
>>10979269I kinda lament NOT getting him while I could.
>>10979361I feel the wheels being on the bottom of the hands instead of the sides is the biggest thing throwing it off for me. I get that space is a premium on a minibot like that, but man.
>>10979361Unironically better than Generations.
>>10977783Animated was the tightest shit. That they captured such a stylized show so well without compromising much in terms of design was nothing short of miraculous. In this era of endless reboots and continuations I can only hope Animated gets another season... ideally after a change in leadership at Hasbro.Though, on the other hand, it already stars a brown girl. Maybe it doesn't need much tweaking to make it Current Year compatible.
>>10979463yeahhh that is a big mistake.. they're meant to be on the ... what they call the 'back' of the hand. which I have never understood. it's the top. the back is the part attached to your wrist.
>>10978996Damn, Opti-Manta looks sick here. This would easily have been one of my favorites as a kid.
>>10979470i wish they could think of a better transformation instead of basically a manta with a robot stuck to its belly
>>10979472McDonald's pack-in toy simplified from a 1-step changer. Only can be so much.
>>10979474>simplified from a 1-step changeryou're saying that as if there was an existing manta transformer at the time. Though you're probably right that they had that in mindLike I get it but maaan in a proper reimagined toy, you could.. maybe have the arms and legs form part of the belly and even be the right color.
I know this inevitably just became Snapper, but I still want this. I wish some 3p company just did updated Beast Wars of random stuff.
>>10979492indeed.but I would still modify this pretty heavilyfor one thing, have a leg swing out which connects with the hind fin, letting it form more the shin rather than a ridiculous huge flat foot...and maybe even do something similar for the arms, the front flippers could be connected to the forearms.. or they could be shoulder accessories. of course then you don't have much robot meat left, but the shell could maybe contribute that. what if the whole sides of the shell became the arms.
>>10979497that is fine.
>>10979503lol this has the same problem as G1 megatron... you're taking a thin thing and having it split into two thin things of the same thickness... and those arms are pretty laughable. Not sure you could even salvage this one. but it'd be kinda fun to try. I mean we did get one dragonfly transformer.. I think a dragonfly tail would make a good gun
>>10979505Well keep in mind these are just concept arts for simplistic McDonalds toys. A real figure probably wouldn't have made Megatron mecha-shiva.
>>10979492Both official and 3P largely being based around what was used on the shows is a bummer to me because I want updates of more toy-only characters. The loophole is that the animes used most of the molds at least
>>10979518>A real figure probably wouldn't have made Megatron mecha-shiva.What's the point then? Shivatron is something that needs to happen.
>>10979294Heh...one could say he's some sort of Beast Wars Neo...
>>10979257>>10979294I was on the fence with this guy because I still have the original, but the more pics I see, the more I'm convinced Hasbro actually knocked it out od the park with him. Which is so weird, because to a lot of people, he's a literal who. The only fault I see is the plesiosaur neck, but im sure we'll get fillers for it from a 3rd party.
>>10979883Hasbro fucks up popular characters all the time, so being a store exclusive toy in America as main exposure doesn't change the way he will be made. Also Takara side does the engineering so possible someone there feels he is important to get right.
>>10979883The rubber plastic is a huge turn off for me, because I think it's pretty great otherwise. While I can see a third party making a new sword, they're not going to replace the wings and they need that way more.
>>10979896TF fandom is fucked up. With how prevalent the anime were and how easy it is to find fansubs for all of them on literally youtube, you'd think they would be more common-knowledge. If this were any other fandom, everyone would know about the anime; hell, even the comics would be more well-known.It seems like TF fans are totally content to just watch the movies/Animated/TFPrime when they were kids, and then LITERALLY nothing else. Maybe some funny Sunbow compilations and the Bumblebee Movie at best, it's kinda fucked up that MTMTE (objectively the most well-known TF comic) is still something most people generally consider "obscure".
>>10979883 meant ^ in response to this, my b.
>>10979883>Which is so weird, because to a lot of people, he's a literal whoWe live in a world where Magmatron is mass retail and Omega Prime is HasLab
>>10979910The problem is that among those that have seen them, the Japanese G1/Beast Wars stuff isn't terribly well-regarded. Most of the positivity just revolves around a handful of designs like Deathsaurus or the novelty of Big Convoy or whatever. The UT (and to a lesser extent RID/Car Robots) has a bigger footprint for obvious reasons but it's appreciated in similar terms. I think the original Marvel comics are fairly well-known. IDW was always a fucking mess, though.
>>10979924>among those that have seen them, the Japanese G1/Beast Wars stuff isn't terribly well-regarded.Eh, maybe in the 90s/early-2000s, when TF fans were shocked and appalled that the shows they never watched were apparently nothing like the headcanons they built up in their heads and online cliques - but not so much today. When people do watch these shows, it feels like they praise stuff like SGMF, Victory, BWII, and Car Robots to the high heavens because they're actually taking them for what they are (beats me why they praise BWII instead of Neo, which's IMO way better in every conceivable way, but I digress).I'd even argue that the UT is barely recognized, honestly; maybe someone will vaguely recognize Armada or Cybertron as "the thing that existed right before they were kids and saw the 1st movie", but that's it. I blame TF fans sticking so closely to the terrible dubs for the shows' poor staying power, but that's kinda another topic entirely.As for the comics, I feel like if you told the average TF fan "hey, the franchise had an entire well-regarded comic that was published by Marvel" then their heads would explode. At most it's like they're vaguely aware IDW/Dreamwave existed, but don't know a single thing about them.See, I feel like if you told the average TMNT fan>"Yo, u know your fave franchise that has strong Japanese inspiration? Yeah they made 10 anime, 2 OVAs, and countless manga about it which you can watch in decent fansubs in full on YT RIGHT NOW"they would go ballistic and make that their entire personality for half a decade, regardless of what the shows are actually like. You tell that to a TF fan and they'd go https://youtu.be/4kEO7VjKRB8And if a capeshit fan felt they had a great comic run that was never properly adapted, then THEY would DEFINITELY make sure everyone knew about it: look at lit. any Marvel capefan. And if there's one thing I'm sure we can agree on, western TF basically is just capeshit with a different coat of paint.
>>10979910>>10979924The animes got railroaded into being considered crappy by boomers running the fandom in the 2000's. There was a lot of mystique around them in the 90's when the only way to get them was VHS copies and, if you were lucky, early P2P pirating, but even then subs and translations were hard to come by. When it got easier in the 2000's, The American side of the fandom that were able to see them kept telling people they were not good and were not worth checking out. Meanwhile these same old fans kept hyping up the G1 Marvel comic as the best thing ever.20 years later the G1 Marvel comic barely gets attention from new fans because, surprise, most people's attention to this franchise starts with aesthetics and the G1 comic is boring at best and ugly at worst visually for most of it, along with dated writing. The animes, especially the BW ones, had to get proper fansubs outside the TF community because a select few fans convinced everyone it wasn't worth checking them out as anything but a curio. had the fandom done a better job of preserving them, we'd probably see more people aware of them.
>>10979917Omega Prime is only a HasLab because of Ultra Magnus. Optimus on his own would be a Commander class, so bundling Magnus with him for retail would be a total no-go. And Magnus would never sell on his own (he'd basically a commander in his own right), meaning Hasbro would likely never greenlight producing him, so the only way we'd reasonably get the full combined Omega Prime is if it got the special HasLab consideration.
>>10979965That's their official answer, but I think it's bull; God Magnus is big but extremely hollow, even on the Haslab. I think they totally could've made him work at Leader price if they wanted. Hasbro generally seems to undervalue Car Robots as a whole though, judging by the mainline releases...>>10979951I'm in my early 20s and read the Marvel comic for the first time last year, I think you're bein a bit harsh personally. US's definitely got bad art at the start but really gets nice later (esp when Jose Delbo becomes a regular), and I think the polished-but-still-old-comic look of the book by then has its own charm; plus UK looked good from basically the start.Writingwise I get where you're coming from, US definitely suffered from many of the human stories and Bob getting overwhelmed by the cast additions, but at the same time he had a lotta ambition I think; dude murdered the entire cast and had the main villain toy usurped by some literal who, leaving the main protag as some literal who pacifist medic, as early as Issue #5, and now Ratchet n Shockwave are considered popular fan-favorites. It certainly wasn't thanks to their nonexistent roles in Sunbow, I'll tell you that. His Cybertron story with Blaster was great, and many of his human stories did stick the landing imo, like with Skids, and the pulpy silliness of some issues also have their charm. It's just harder to appreciate them when they're surrounded by many otherwise-bleh stories.I think most people today would appreciate UK most, it's got the most modern-style writing and Furman juggled cast additions way better, but it also has some dumb filler in the early years, and the publishing order frequently got outta sync.I feel a condensed reading order of US+UK would do a great deal in getting new fans to appreciate it, but it seems that doesn't really exist online besides fans saying "just read everything in order lol". I wanna make one myself, where do u guys think I should post such a thing?
>Magmatron will arrive this week>No word on SS concept MegsWhat is happening with him? I picked small hobby online shop since they have best prices also I prefer supporting them over big corpos. But I wonder if he was this much wanted by the community.
>>10979951>the G1 comic is boring at best and ugly at worst visually for most of it,I've given Marvel a fair shake I think. Read the first 15 or so issues, and yeah, with some shame I'll say the art filtered meI need to give JPG1 another go. Headmasters proved to be a very effective sleep aid when I tried it a couple years back and I watched SGMF way back when you could watch anything on YouTube in three parts but didn't even make it to when Ginrai reenters the show after episode 1
>>10979951>The animes got railroaded into being considered crappy by boomers running the fandom in the 2000'sI'm not a boomer, but I do think the anime are all mostly crappy.
>>10979883>Which is so weird, because to a lot of people, he's a literal who.I mean, I bought him because he looks cool, and I like the idea of three dinos combining to form a badass robot. Honestly, it's the same reason I got Armada Optimus Prime, Tarn, and a bunch of other characters despite having only grown up with Beast Wars and never reading any of the comics - sometimes you don't need to know a character's whole life story to really like a design, y'know?
>>10979903what would you like to change for the wings?also yeah thirdparties seem to have really slowed down lately.
>>10980124Not that anon, but he's talking about the rubbery plastic.
>>10980127oh the wings are rubbery! well I guess that's sort of suitable but I feel like that's a bad combination with thin, hinged pieces..
>>10979980>I think they totally could've made him work at Leader priceWould people buy him even then, though? They didn't buy him when RiD/Car Robots was relevant, why would they buy him at 50 bucks nowadays? And sure, Magnus is mostly hollow, but he also has to transform into armor for Prime, which includes a second set of hands, a second head, etc.
>>10979999yes
>>10980137Yeah, wow, I hope it's different from the stuff they were using with Titans Return. if it's the same as what they used for, say Mindwipe, which has wing tips that just crumble, I would not be happy.
>>10980163it's too bad you can't treat rubberized plastic with some kind of gas that turns it into a hard but non-brittle form. maybe still just flexible enough to take a little weight.
>>10980170That sounds weirdly specific. Is it a sarcastic reference to an actual process?
>>10980191Seconding this
>>10980191nerve gas
>>10980191I was just thinking about how various gases can change the nature of plastic (hence it being rubbery in the first place, but over time, it can turn to sludge, or it can turn hard and brittle). I'm just saying there must be all kinds of other options..
Core class Rock 2 leak when
>>10980204Imma be realI haven't liked a single Rock so far
>>10980212Understandable.
>>10980212i like shard but I wouldn't pay more than 11 dorra for her.and i still need an anon to show me how good a fish mode she can have.
I am beginning to doubt if SS86 Ultra Magnus even exists in-store. Scalpers must be raiding trucks for the guy Mad Max style.
>>10980224Commander Class are big, so maybe your local store isn't even stocking them.
>>10979463Fuck off tooner. Missing Link is for men of taste.>>10979387Unsurprising, given how utterly uninspired mainline releases have become. They're bland AND expensive. If I'm gonna overpay for something, it may as well be something back from when toys were actually trying to be toys.
>>10979980>I think they totally could've made him work at Leader price if they wanted.gee, you really fuckin' think? Hasbro's entire business model over the past 5 years has been a concentrated attempt to bait collectors into paying more for less plastic. The problem is that enough people fell for it that there's no going back now.
>>10980224I've never seen a commander class physically in stores, ever
>>10980227>it may as well be something back from when toys were actually trying to be toys.I think there's something to this. Unboxing and playing with ML Convoy gave me a feeling I haven't had since the TR/LG days, where every figure felt kinda like its own little self-contained playset. The budget may have been at rock bottom during Prime Wars, but TR at least put out some super fun figures.
>>10980227>Unsurprising, given how utterly uninspired mainline releases have becomeI've enjoyed some stuff from the WFC trilogy, Studio Series, and Legacy, but it does feel like we've been in a slight rut. We've had worse periods though.
>>10980217That the Green Heli?I think I dislike it the most cause it looks absolutely like gem stuff or crystalsIt's just ugly pond rock colors tho the actual mold and shape of the Heli is kinda coolI think a non Rock one would be nice
>>10980212I think a couple of them look neat but I don't feel like starting a rock collection either.
Got Sandstorm, hes more chunky in hand than pics would suggest, buggy mode could be better, but bot and chopper modes are pretty good. Guess my original Wreckers ane now complete.>>10980237Haven't seen any good looking fanmade combinations either.
>>10980212Nobody has. Like most of the "-izers" they're gimmicky shit that gets forgotten quickly. The problem is that, compared to the rest of the mainline releases, the Izers at least feel like something new and different. Some people just take a while to realize that a turd on a plate might be "different" than what you've eaten for dinner every night for the last three years, but that doesn't make it good.
>>10980244Vertebreak is good.
>>10980212I like the new white one because he looks like a moon rock and could go with the space-themed Botropolis types but that's really it
>>10980244They feel oddly limited, bots don't have dynamic designs, they don't make cool jetpacks or weapons like the weaponizers and bonners, no base modes or cool combined modes like the modulators or junkions either.
>>10980229it's gotta be costing them more money than it's saving. if not now, then pretty soon. sadly everyone involved in every decision is allowed to self-assess, since there's no objective method of assessment. so they can just claim it worked.>>10980236I would definitely prefer if she was transparent, or even better transparent but with an opaque paint wash so it looked like crystals emerging from rock.
>>10980244>>10980259I think the thing is that the izers have the same flaws the main figures have, plus they don't have decades of direct experience keeping them at least somewhat on-track, the way regular transforming figures do.
>>10980244It depends, the only ones that actually drew me were the ones that were existing figures like Cog or Brunt and the micromaster bases. I really didn't care about the bonerizers or junkions and don't really care about the rocks either.
Speaking of fish/sea themed TFs, has anybody identified each of the molds that would've been used in picrel? I recognize a fair bunch, but I just can't figure out who, for example, Optimus is supposed to be made out of.
>>10980273i like the idea of living skeletons that rearrange into robots, but i need the skeleton to be all one color. which makes a boring robot. the only way it could really work is if two different dino skeletons quickly swapped parts with each other to make robot modes.
>>10980290>but i need the skeleton to be all one colorWhy? Skellys have more than one color, the ones that turn full white are those who stood under direct sun light for long time.
>>10980288Mirage
>>10980290You need to exercise your creativity bone.
>>10980296>Skellys have more than one colorn.. no... they're all one color. also these are fossils, so what color it is doesn't matter, it can be anything if that mineral replaced the bones.. but uniformity is kind of important.
>>10980288>PrimeEnergon Dreadwing/Mirage>Arcee, EliteThunderblast>Hoist, Trailbreaker, IronhideRTS Seaspray>Smokescreen, ProwlMovie Depthcharge>Bee, Cliff, BrawnArmada Sea Mini-Con Team>MetroplexTidal Wave>MegatronTM2 Cybershark/RID Sky-byte>SeekersBW2 Hellscream>SoundwaveBW Depthcharge>CassettesGreebled up FOC versions>TrypticonGigastorm?
>>10980313You're aware that there's not a single actual bone in that picture, right? That's a mix of plaster casts and - in the spots where there's actual material - stone that's taken on the shape of bone, not actually the bones themselves.
>>10980396>Commander Big Convoy with matrix cannon and Navi asap.
>"we've noticed a lot of bad press lately to the effect of 'rocks are stupid' and 'why would they do this?' to address these fearful and small-minded concerns we present: Monkeyrat Labs 120mm Basalt Rifle, the world's first entirely rock-based artillery unit!">"Utilizing our patented Sedimentargeting System™ we have achieved nearly 50% of the accuracy of conventional artillery at a mere eightfold weight increase!"
>>10980396polar claw got to be in the anime?>>10980399>do you know that's stonewell I dunno anon. maybe if we look carefully at my post, we'll find the answer >>10980313>mineral replaced the bonesyeah it looks like I did know that.
>>10980415Recolor Survive.
>>10980413Is Manta Ray here to be the test subject?
>>10980418oh right right the non-polar bear.
The gobot pack and Springer are in the wild, so we should see something very soon.
>>10980439>The gobot pack and Springer are in the wildLink?
>>10980313>it can be anything if that mineral replaced the bones.. but uniformity is kind of important.Yeah and it can have color variation depending on the minerals, your mind image isn't from real fossils but museum replicas.
>>10980448Can't you kill an animal right now and see what color the bones are?
>>10980448how the fuck is the mineral content in the water going to change from one part to anothera gradient, perhaps, but not two separate distinct colors making up random parts.I've seen plenty of real fossils, they all look uniform in color.>>10980455yeah but we have to be fair, these aren't meant to be living skeletons. Not sure how they could work in transformers lore at all actually.
>>10980444They're being sold on ebay right now with placeholder images.
>>10980458Oh, and the seller had sold other unreleased figured as well. He had placeholders foe hot shot and núcleos, then replaced them with pics they took right after they leaked.
>>10980243the propellors on mine are stupid tight and refuse to spin in helicopter mode, wtf.
>>10980458>>10980462Ah, neat.
>>10980413>"help me out here, fellas. I'm struggling to see how any of this design wouldn't be improved by using, say, metal, or composite materials...">"well but then it wouldn't....it wouldn't have any rocks...">"ROCKS!">"that's what I thought. I think we're done here."
>>10980224Yeah seriously. Why is he so hard to find for msrp?
>>10980560that design rocksI wonder if any fishy transformers would appreciate using these guys as fishtank gravel
>>10980457>how the fuck is the mineral content in the water going to change from one part to anotherComplete body fossils are rare, if the body was torn apart the mineral concentartion van vary from part to part changing their colors and shades. Even complete bodie fossils have different shades so I don't get why you insist on having only 1 color on the toys.
>>10980611So it looks right if you build something from them.
>>10980611we're obviously only talking about complete body fossils here, anon. you're falling off the horse.show me a single complete body fossil with different shades
>>10980560>"Cancel all funds to Monkeyrat.">"Yes sir"
>>10980689>"Arrange a meeting with the Maximal Finance Minister">"yes sir"
>>10980690>"cancel that press conference about 'the future is rock.'">"anything else, sir?"
>>10980690he really does look like a bureaucrat
>>10980693>"oh yeah just...it can wait.">"as you will, sir."
>>10980698*sizzling noises*
>>10980699did.. he trick him into an elevator that actually cooked him?
>>10980699>"Holy shit it sucks living in the ocean; re-fund Monkeyrat and tell them to redouble their Rock-Project">"yes sir.">"cancel that meeting with the finance minister, Rhinox is boring as hell">"yes sir.">"The Future is Rock Conference is back on! and tell my wife, Arcee that I am both 'home' and 'mammalian' she'll know what you mean.">"consider it done, sir.">"I don't know what I would do without you, buddy.">"it's my pleasure, sir."
I miss c-clipsthey should bring back c-clips
>>10980772Why are you stuttering anon
>>10980775anon you are C-lly
>>10980772D..doshio[twirls ball hair around finger]Memes aside I miss RTS Windcharger and the Sunspot banana bird and his hatchetsWas one of my favorite molds honestly
>>10980779H-heh, y-you too!
>Scrolling through pics>Remember that I still have the lone candy toy version of Vector Prime's miniconGuess I'm getting the Legacy version.
>>10977705Hey guys, is this the manta ray general?
The boys
>>10981108
>>10981110
>>10981111it looks so weird with human face
>>10981108>>10981110Sweet boy! I hope we get more minibots in Missing Link, I'd love to see how weirdos like Brawn or Warpath would look with proper articulation
>>10981116maybe they will do cartoon deco with different face sculpts?
>>10981116You have never seen a G1 Cliffjumper then, because that's how his face looks.
>Teegay's
>>10981130Not talking about the face sculpt itself, rather the look of the whole thing put together is like a red warwick davis
>>10981141He is a minibot after all
>>10981143Ikr, never have I wanted to kick a cliffjumper as much as this one.
>>10981152You try that, and he will break your legs.
>>10981110>OG toy headsculptThank god. I wonder if they'll do a separate cartoon release with the retooled head, or if they'll just include an extra head and make it swappable. I don't wanna go all-in on missing link, but I feel like I'm gonna end up getting both of these lads.>>10981126>I hope we get more minibots in Missing LinkI'm crossing my fingers for Tailgate. It's always been one of my favorite mini-bot molds, and I feel like some bonus articulation would really make him sing, even if they have to skip giving him a neck joint for obvious reasons.
>>10981177He is the cheapish reworking of Windcharger. Depends on how they plan on approaching this line.
Bought SSGE Sideswipe during the weekend. The joints are ALSO floppy but still far better than the old FOC's, can't even be bothered to transform that thing. A nitpick only I would make is that he doesn't have 5mm ports in vehicle mode so I guess this sword/gun is going back to UM.
Earthspark has lesbo robot sex?
>>10981260Green Twitch?
>>10981263totally new con
>>10981260Green Twitch? New altmode for Hashtag?
>>10981269>Doppelganger isn't called GlitchNo, the stupid idea I had didn't become real
>>10981177I always loved Tailgate just for his adorable little AM/FM stereo chest. Absolutely mogs Windcharger.
>>10981110>>10981111$40 MSRP, each
>>10981260Oh yay. I was hoping we got a non-finger puppet version of her. I like the Terrans.If I could only get an awesome muscle car Arcee.
>>10981098Might be gone, can't find the Customs General either.
>>10981304Wow, somehow that's worse than Prime's MSRPs.
>>10981330Megatron's grandmother is too big.
>>10981341Not his grandma neither fat!
>>10981368Not entirely sold on the exact shape, but having an opening jaw is really cool.
inb4 some stupid thing like Shard's recolor getting called Killmage provisionally.
>missing link minibots are 40 FUCKING BURGERS EACHeat up, nostalgiapiggies
>>10981392Only 10 dollars more than the reissues of the same size guys with less moving parts.
>>10981098well it's definitely the wearing-your-entire-altmode-on-your-back general
>>10981110funny they're so slavish about the plate-heads, yet they didn't put the hand-wheels where they go
>>10981407Hey, his beast mode head is on his chest.
>>10981341>Olympia Dukakis and Bo Derek in: Too Many Grandmas
>>10981413fair, i guess that puts him with the likes of Airazor.. but at least her bird legs do something
New card game with hot Flamewar on its box.
>>10981413>Hey, his beast mode head is on his chest.Yes and no.The actual sides of the head and eyes of the beast mode are on the legs. That's the cool thing, he has a mechanical manta head in beast mode and an organic one as decoration in his robot mode chest that was under the mechanical one.
>>10981407He looks cool as fuck so who cares. Those giant fins are awesome.
What's the next Dramatic Capture Series pack gonna have in it
>>10981437this dramatic scene
Finally got around to reading Dreamwave G1, I'm a bit mixed overall but I'd say I enjoyed it a lot in the end.v1 and v2 start off edgy and a bit basic writing-wise, which has its own of-the-time charm in fairness, but yeah the War Within minis are viewed as the highlight pretty rightfully I'd say. Much more consistent art (Wildman's art on Dark Ages is prolly my favorite of his work ever now, the coloring really complimented him there), and had... actual, narrative themes, but was also still pulpy and with the occasional humor. That said, I feel the mainline comic was finally getting good right when it ended; v3 (when it became an ongoing) started to be more like War Within tonally, and Figuroa becoming the main artist of course gave the art a huge boost.Makes me wanna reread early IDW again, seeing as it had a lot more directly in common with Dreamwave than I first realized, lol.But yeah anyways Sunstorm fucking rules. Hope they do a new G1 Seeker mold sooner than later, I really wanna see him on one. (Was also prolly my favorite role for Jetfire, dude was a fucking badass; makes me glad I preordered his Siege reissue last month lol).Here's hoping that The Fallen next year is solid, too, he was actually wicked in the comic. I got the SS RotF one recently on sale, but basically only because I wanted him as a silly jobber for Prime lmao.
>>10981410>they didn't put the hand-wheels where they goBut they did.
>>10981260I don't really know or care about this character, beyond Hashtag being a really lame name, but I kinda like how this looks. Pickup trucks are cool, and semi-rare altmodes it feels like. Not sure about the powerlinx port directly on top of the roof though. I guess if you got two you could have like, A double-truck, or a truck-centaur a la Energon Towline>>10981274Aw, I like the name Glitch more than Spitfire
>>10981483>beyond Hashtag being a really lame name,Concept: a big bruiser character who's also a telecommunications expert, call him Pound.
>>10981483The one in the show was a surveillance van with things like a dish on the top, and much darker colors. Either she scans a new altmode, or Hasbro really didn't give a fuck.
>>10981392You know, I don't even have nostalgia for G1 but missing link is the most interesting thing Transformers have done in a long time. And they actually have good alt modes! I though I'd just get Prime for the novelty and then bow out, but Prime himself was so well done that I'm looking forward to what else they do.
>>10981477so the original arms were in a 'punching' position then? not 'holding a gun' position? because the wheels were originally on the top of the hands and now they're on the .... outside edge. we don't have good words for the sides of the hand.
>>10981483did they seriously use hashtag as a namei swear it's being done on purpose
>>10981407it's really not, unless you count seekers as dong that too
>>10981511It is intentional. The character is a constantly online brat.
>>10981483>>10981511In the show, Hashtag turns into a surveillence van topped with satelite dishes. She loves the internet and is the enter-the-virtual-internet-world-to-hack-things character. The name fits.
>>10981511What is the 'it' you're referring to? What "are they doing on purpose" to you? Please fully explain your thoughts, we aren't psychic.
>>10981516no i meannevermind
>>10981523No, please actually describe what you meant. Because we sure as hell don't know.
>>10981098Fun fact: Depth Charge's arms/thrusters are his manta mode's penises.
>>10981532penii?
>>10981538that would be the plural of 'penius'penes is the plural of penisand cartilaginous fish don't have one. they have extra slender pelvic fins. So basically they dip their toes into her sharkgina and hold it open so shark sperm can go in.
Now I remembered this ancient comic.
>>10981519I'm sure it fits, but I unno, there's other internet-y names that would have also fit. Specific references to current social media like that just makes me wanna groan and roll my eyes, It feels very "How do you do fellow kids?"
>>10981554Do you think the show was actually written by people who are in the target audience or something? Of course it is "how do you do fellow kids?"
>>10981437I want then to dip into Earthrise shit that was a pain in the ass to get, like give us a set with Prowl that isn't the ugly SS86 colors.
>>10981556What would that change beyond being less dead?
>>10981510My god it's true
>>10981260It's so hideous reallyLike fuck that's ugly>>10981269And the even worse Twitch recolor
>>10981559I don't like the baby blue opaque windows and would rather have the transparent ones from the original release.
>>10981573Soundwave and Shockwave use translucent parts, so maybe they can for Prowl even if it isn't show accurate.
>>10981567oh! well then I was wrongthere's something cute about how the hand appears to be gripping the axle...
>>10981554the character is a newborn. she esstientially IS a kid. And hashtags are BY FAR not a "modern" internet thing. You are an old man yelling at a cloud.
>>10981437It has to have a prop like the Nemesis chair so, I'm thinking Teletraan 1'll be in it
>>10981580do you have to stretch before you pull mental gymnastics like thisi swear every time someone talks about what era something is from, some moron is like UM ACKSHUALLY PEOPLE USED THAT TERM BACK IN AN EARLIER TIMEyou know exactly what we meant, the specific type of usage we meant, the people using it constantly, not some obscure dictionary-reader. eat shit.and by eat shit i mean come to the lord and stop being a meanie.
>>10981597Same as it ever was.
>>10981597Old man yells at cloud.
>>10981601Can you put a Spark in the cloud?
>>10981547wrong
>>10981601you'll be old someday too
>>10981606I'll be old and cool, while you'll be just a geezer B]
>>10981605no i'm pretty sure that's all right. latin plurals are funny that way.
actual autism
>>10981607>Old man teaches martial arts to orphans
>>10981108They look pretty good, though the heads in this case are an example of the line being a little more conservative than I would like. Ths biggest issue though is the price. These are not worth $40.
>>10981614I'm actually surprised a cartoon deco with painted headlights, blue windows, and show-style head for Bumblebee didn't occur.
>>10981620what do you mean. back then? that's not a surprise, they didn't do that back then. today? it hasn't "not occurred" yet, the first version isn't even out yet. sometime in between? i don't think they had the original mold to modify.
>>10981629Show version and toy version came out the same time for the popular red truck guy.
>>10981620I don't mind the toy style faces. I just wish they weren't still on the old plates and maybe had a little more paint, especially for $40 a piece. Even a $40 two-pack would be tough for what we're getting here. I honestly expected these to be more like $20 a piece.
>>10981638true but this would be far from the first time that they were inconsistent with that.in this case, they're putting out bee and cliffjumper at the same time. so they might put out toon versions of both at the same time too.
>>10981260>>10981269Squawkbox?
>>10981671I'm surprised they didn't do a Laserbeak and Frenzy redeco into the components once as filler.
>>10981597Look there's a shitton of TF names that are dated that we just roll with.Bluestreak's name comes from the fact that he's talkative and "Talking up a bluestreak" used to be a common phrase. Jazz was named because the Jazz revival in the 70's and 80's harkened to a cool and hip music style- now Jazz is thought of old boomer music. Hot Rod was a type of cool retro car associated with greaser types, which were fresh in pop culture thanks to 50's nostalgia in the 70's-now they're cars from nearly 80 years ago.
>>10981686we still say 'swear a blue streak.' people still listen to jazz. and hot rods will always be desirable and cool cars. your argument has failed.
>>10981686I'll take something that's dated to before I was born over something that's dated to now, especially music and terminology.Toy design not so much. I'll take the new stuff. with some 90s thrown in.
>>10981688>we still say 'swear a blue streak.'Not really, no.
>>10981701they said it on the simpsons.that means unless you're one of these whackjob little kids now who don't watch any tv, you've heard it regularly in your entire life. language isn't supposed to change once that happens.
>>10981688>>10981707AnonI have literally never heard that saying and i'm 30+You're making shit up
>>10981707take your meds
>>10981689>I'll take something that's dated to before I was born over something that's dated to now, especially music and terminology.Good news! the kids the show is for were born after the word hashtag became commonplace.It's use in popculture is almost as old as "Hot Rod" was in the 80's.
>>10981686Imagine a world where Jazz was called Hiphop instead.
>>10981716are you being obtuse deliberately or do you actually have this false sense of equivalence between the two things
Hot Rod works as well because future versions make his exhaust into flamethrowers, so he has hot rods.
>>10981718That's not a shitty language fad though, just a shitty impression of music. A closer equivalent would be if his name was Finna or Spinners or something.
>>10981728Spinner might work, but would need different wheels than the G1 toy had.
Much better with the waist able to extend down.
>>10981608nah I googled it
>>10981741wait is that a mod or something
>>10981741Thighs look really short now
so, old school standing up straight vertical tyranos or more modern depiction horizontal tyranos?
>>1098184745 degree supremacy
>>10981847Ones on the left. Grimlock needs to upgrade to Super Mechagodzilla to compete.
"ignore him, he's still rocking the old school inaccurate dino mode"
>>10981855BASEDASED
>>10981855Vertigo when?
>>10981873I'm in no hurry. she was the worst one. some kind of.. upright cobra tanystropheus struthiomimus. Great name though.
>>10981741Definitely better, but the crap hanging off the sides of his upper body really stand out all the more now, yeesh... as well as the kinda bloated look of his arms and chest.
Cybertron Starscream is FANTASTIC, he has articulation out the ass, even more than the Siege Seeker did. Plus he's got plenty of weapons and even his cyber key.
>>10981748Yes>>10981760Kinda baked into the animated design to an extent, bending the knees helps a little.>>10981937Getting the front wheels to fold up into the correct position adds to the complexity of the mod. The first pic is with them siting how they would be with only the upper torso swivel hinge modded and pic related is with the abdomen properly cut to let them tab in.I certainly think it looks significantly better. Shame nothing can really be done about the awful foot shape as of right now without just strait making new ones.
>>10981941Dang, gotcha. Yeah that pic definitely looks better. Something about it still strikes me as off, though... maybe the head is too small..?Either way that's impressive you got that lutta this mold, tho, kudos man. What kind of mod exactly did you do?
>>10981941I never noticed Animated optimus had such short thighs, it's because his body tapers down so by the time it gets there, those look like normal thighs...
>>10981945With the stock torso I'd say the opposite I think. Most of my problem with him is the really uncanny lower legs. It's like they put animated style legs on a animated styled design.
>>10981945As for the mod, the swivel hinge on his back is doubled up. I cut it under the top swivel, drilled a hole through the halves and glued a piece of polystyrene so that it can slide up and down. From there I set a nail in as a stopper and cut out the sides of the upper abdominal area. You can't see the mod in robot, and you have to be really looking for it in vehicle.
>>10981965you wanna try that last bit again? I can guess what you meant>>10981982super clever. I need to hire you to modify legacy inferno for me
>>10981982With something like that, I wouldn't be too shocked if it turned out the original plan worked like this, and was changed to final for some reason.
>>10981984Sorry, animated style legs on a animated styled g1 design. Phone's autocorrect is worthless.I almost think that the original voyager's legs would look better on him than these mushy ones do.
>>10981873Better question: Necrosan when? (The answer is never. Poor dude never even had a shot at his own game, let alone a spinoff).
Anyone find a concept megatron they want to sell? I'm tired of going to stores
>>10982008well keep in mind even the toys already cheated. they weren't gonna give him pencil-thin legs, so they adapted and gave us something that evoked the show model while frankly being superior.>>10982024it's so weird the model was actually finished given it didn't get to show up..
TAKARA ALWAYS WINS BABYhttps://news.tfw2005.com/2024/05/07/takara-tomy-t-spark-amt-01-adamas-machina-rodimus-predaking-510893
>>10982050>shield liger and genosaureroh hell yes, I wonder what these are gonna be
>>10982050I'm sure these will be nice and expensive.
>>10982050https://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/tsparkofficial/adamas/amt01_rodimus/Uses Flame Toys' KKK design but it can ackshually transform now.
https://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/tsparkofficial/metamor/Writeup here says they'll be doing Transformers designs too in this Kotobukiya girlpla line
>>10982095not literally their design, right
>>10982095I'd love for them to give us a Lost Light repaint, but there's no way that'll happen.I might have to prepare to make a shittily painted custom once this thing drops.
>>10982058shitit turns out they're gonna be 1/100 scalethat's not gonna work with the rest of my zoids! plus they already did that once, with the 'blox' versions of regular guys. having a miniature version of a larger zoid is neat but the novelty wears off. and even those were still in the same 1/72 scale.man why can't /toy/ have a zoids general? just because the line's fucking dead. that's no excuse.
>>10982034>it's so weird the model was actually finished given it didn't get to show up..The model, stage, and backstory were done, the moveset and animations weren't. They finished him for Primal Rage 2, apparently.
>>10982122
Looks like Takara is fixing Lio Convoy's fucked up lion face
>>10982126
>>10982114god primal rage 2 was such a mess>hey claymation sure is a lot of work. Last time making just five unique dinosaurs kicked our ass, and even with two recolors we had a tiny roster and no boss>let's make eight entirely new fucking models not even recyclable, of goofy dumb He-Man humans. because people want to play as humans, right? Not dinosaurs. Fuck those.imagine what could have been..
>>10982137
>>10982122i dig those leg pipes>>10982126not a bad altmode at all>>10982128that looks extremely fucked up. the eyes are all smushed down and the nosebridge is flattened. looks more like the toonish anime model.also what is this a part of? they're modifying existing recent molds? because that is still clearly the new mold with all of its faults. just with a new anime lion head
>>10982102Does that mean Windblade/Arcee/etc as plastic kits, or girl Optimus/Bee/Megatron?
>>10982151Fleshy girls w/ backpacks they are only showing the Zoids ones for now. Maybe they'll reuse the Bishoujo statue designs.
>>10982158takara-tomyCHADS . . . I kneel!
>>10982158>Fine wearing Siegthat's basically what happened in the anime anyway. except he just opened up his torso cavity and we just pretended she could fit in there. I like the Gouryuujin tail-lance too.>some bitch i've never seen before with a superdeformed blade ligerwhaaat
>>10982146>not a bad altmode at allNo, no. It is.
>>10982172Has wheels, general shape of a car. In the future of 2005, that is what everyone will drive.
A Transformer without a gimmick
>>10982172what part don't you like?
>>10982140Optimus took that Depends model job.
>Next one listed is fucking PredakingThat sounds really difficult unless this one is actually like a Megazord and doesn't have individual robots.Also Exkaiser.
More of the hobby show boothhttps://hobby.dengeki.com/event/2326441/2/
>>10982179Predaking is under the diecast figure line so yeah that's a possibilityThe Toyrise line though, with Exkaiser and Genesic GaoGaiGar sound like they are applying CHUG or Diaclone Reboot engineering to these Braves. https://hobby.dengeki.com/event/2326441/
>>10982185another lion with no neck and backwards human legs for hind legs. ho hum.
>>10981741>>10981941>>10981982>>10981965Could you post of picture of him in robot mode straight from the front? It really looks like this fixes my main issue with him.
>poorfags on TFW already whining about $40 for ML minibotsI don't understand how you can accept overpaying for Hasslop but every premium Takara product is allegedly overpriced
>>10982203>40 dollars for a core class
>>10982177the part where the alt mode is completely contextual
>>10982211What does that mean?
>>10982211>>10982212yeah what does that mean?see now if I had to pick it apart, I'd say there's tons of gaps in it, it's made of a ton of discrete pieces. but... for a futuristic car, I don't mind that. and I'd prefer it over being TOO smooth.
>>10977705I have recently acquired a weakness for beast wars basic class dudesPlease help
>>10982214sorry anon, you're hookedpray that someone finds a big cheap lot of them in taiwan or something and you can get em without spending every money
>>10982128>Will have to buy another LioGuess I wasted my money on the Legacy version.
>>10982231might be able to get 18 bucks for him on mercariyou really like the anime look? I mean there's something neat about the angular mane, but it's not even supposed to be like that in beast mode, on the show.
>>10982231Even assuming it is a retool of that one, it has lots of new parts including the arms.
>>10982234The obvious parts are the whole lion's head and pop out claws.
>>10982240the claws are different?dammitis this going to be exclusive in some way
>>10982221I’ve already ordered three in quick successionI guess at least that means there’s only about three more I want left, if I can find them for a decent price
Is this thing worth retail or should I just wait, possibly in vain, for a Razorclaw?
>>10982246curious, which ones
>>10982250It was worth the 35 I paid for.
>>10982250does it LOOK good to you, anon?the tiny hands? the loincloth sitting up under his pecs? the goofy-ass tiger head? the tiny bird legs?
>>10982251Powerpinch, drill bit, and the last one is actually buzz saw from beast machines. Gonna try to get air hammer if I can, too
>>10982158Man it's strange to see their Mecha Musume kits extend to Zoids but here we are.
>>10982260powerpinch and drill bit fucking rock. I love those guys.but as for BW buzz saw, first of all I had no idea he was a basic. secondly, while it is neat to see a wasp with a waist for once, the waist being an obvious metal coilspring ruins it entirely for me. but I do like the transformation. antennae staying on the robot head? neat. wings to legs? super unique. bug legs moving to different asymmetrical places? I can get down with that reluctantly (i'm curious where the other legs go though, I only see four in robot mode)But the silly claw-arm and leg-arm are just.. what? come on.
>>10982250Keep an eye on amazon, I got him for 40 bucks, hes ok, not worth full price IMO.
>>10982137>>10982140Is this just Missing Link Ginrai?
>>10982269Glad to hear it, excited for those guys to arrive.And yeah, he’s got some weird shit about him, but honestly? Beast machines toys have a really unique flair to them that I don’t see a lot, just look at the silhouette and the colors alone on that dude. He’s not perfect, and is really non-conventional, but I’m still sold on him.
>>10982253Yeah, it looks retarded, that's why I kinda like it. But I try to limit myself from buying mainly white mainline figures now because the plastic tends to yellow faster than a Chinaman with liver problems.
>>10982158Meh. Can we at least strip 'em of their armor parts, assemble said armor into little versions of their corresponding Zoids, and chuck the generic humans out in the trash?
>>10982284
>>10982293The alt mode looks straight up like G1 toy
>>10982269>i'm curious where the other legs go though, I only see four in robot mode)As I recall, four stay on his back, two become his right hand.On that note, I miss him. Maybe I should track one down so I can have him again...
>>10982296The one in the show is based on the toy.
>>10982306sure, but it specifically is built like my original toy with it straight up looking like legs and hip instead of an actual vehicle
>>10982289I hope that sort of thing has gotten better, but i'm not sure. i'm in the process of painting my kingdom tigatron into a different kinda tiger and I have to admit, his hands look to have yelowed a bit. they're not quite the same white as before. but then again he seems to have two different whites, one slightly metallic and shiny, and i swear in the case of the spikes down the middle of his feet and the patches on the front of his thighs, that is actually -paint-
>>10982290I believe these are statuesThe tail can't turn into a lance and also come apart into a proper flexible tail.. though Sieg was often cheaty as fuck anyway. his metal parts flexed like rubber all the time. I mean he was supposed to be an 'organoid' so there's an excuse for it..
I like to think Clobber is Lugnuts older sister.
>>10982314She should be the little sister. Introduced later and she isn't absolutely massive like Lugnut.
>>10982319unfortunately, the only toy of Sieg so far is a tiny unposable figurine, scaled to the larger zoids. He's more of a power-up pokemon, representing the organic metallic life that zoids were built around. they're basically gigantic cyborgs that started with metal animals to begin with.and he was so cute, I always wanted a proper toy of him just to have.
>>10982319I own multiple versions of the Liger; it's Sieg/Zeke I was more interested in.
>>10982327i would buy the fuck out of a little articulated figure set of Bang, Sieg, and Fine. Season 1 versions of course, the timeskip hit them pretty hard with the ugly stick. Love those guys
>>10982310That Ginrai is a Masterpiece toy.
>>10982332I understand, but it is very much this than that
>>10982158>>10982290>>10982313The website says they're 1/10 movable plastic model kits. Not fully confirmed but chances are Metamor verse kits are based on Kotobukiya's Sousai Shoujo Teien model kit line like picrel.And no because it's a Mecha Musume you can't just take off the armor and reassemble it into the mech it is based on.
>>10982337Well it's a Masterpiece toy that based its design on both the original toy and the animated version. That's why the separately released Ginrai is based on the toy version and the complete package Super Ginrai is based on the anime version.
>>10982337It is a truck designed to turn into a robot and is at least two levels of abstraction from a real-world one. Cannot be helped.
>>10982338You missed out on one detail, Metamor verse is not being made by Kotobukiya. It is made by a different company called Juya. You are right on the mecha musume bit though.
>>10982340They are the same toys with different colours anon>>10982341I assume you like how it looks in alt mode?
>>10982346That's what I'm saying anon, the Masterpiece toy takes a lot of elements from the original toy. But it also takes elements from the anime version, the design is neither slavishly accurate to the anime nor slavishly accurate to the toy. In a way I guess it's designed like the older Masterpiece toys, the ones that weren't designed to be Sunbow accurate.
>>10982338>because it's a Mecha Musume you can't just take off the armor and reassemble it into the mech it is based on.Bullshit. Not the anon you were talking to, but I own some of the Macross Valkyrie sets and it's totally possible to build a functional vehicle from the parts (that even turns into their Gerwalk modes; the only one you can't do completely is the Batteroid mode, because the human character is intended to represent that when fully armored up). They're not the only kits, either - I've had several in the past that had a similar gimmick; hell, even a few of the old Busou Shinki figures from decades ago could have their armor turn into stuff (Graffias, Vespilio, Arnval MKII, Strarf MKII, etc.) when they weren't wearing it. I see no reason why it couldn't be done here - other than laziness.
>>10982350Headmasters is not sunbow and it definitely looks slavish to the toy design
>>10982353But it also looks like the anime version. On Super Ginrai at least, his character model on the first few episodes of Masterforce didn't have the shoulder guns like the original toy did. It had these red stubs that extend somewhat out of the shoulders. The Masterpiece toy gives you the option of attaching either the shoulder guns that is accurate to the toy (and later parts of the Masterforce anime) or the red stub shoulders that's accurate to the anime.
Are the maximal and predacon logos based on anyone? I think it's a wolf and mosquito???
>>10982357I'm talking about the core bot anon, specifically the alt mode
>>10982214Anon, I have a very important question:Did you get Spittor?
>>10982358the pred logo is actually a regular fly, you can see the stubby antennae and small proboscis.maximal logo looks more like if Dr. Fate was a furry.
>>10982351I've seen those Variable Fighter Girls kits. They look nice but they're in the minority compared to those like Megami Device and Frame Arm Girls where it is either huge armor bolted onto a girl or a character/mech design simplified and bolted onto a girl. And they represent the Mecha Musume we have nowadays.
>>10981741nahh this kinda looks bad dude
>>10982362Nah, I’ve already got the slapper mold, so I’m set on him for now, sorry spittoranon
>>10982345The Juya bit is a mistranslation, they're Koto.
>>10982442Sousai Shoujo and Zoids collab is not something I expected on the 2024 bingo card but then again neither is the Zoids and Hokuto no Ken collab either.
>>10982459They're Nidy designs, so they're probably closer to FAG or MD in terms of construction as opposed to Sousai.
>>10982465That is true, but IIRC both FAG and MD are 1/1 scale (since they're not scaled off anything obviously) yet here it states that they're 1/10 which is Sousai's scale. I guess we'll just have to wait and see, considering Nidy pretty much works with Kotobukiya at this point I wouldn't be surprised if he's involved somehow.
>>10982484The kit of Gene from PSO2 was another Nidy design which used more FAG-like construction. I imagine they'll follow that kind of engineering, Sousai is more doll-like and more limited for armored ladies.
>>10982140>MP-60so much for everything being MPG now...
>>10982488Yes. That's correct. MP-60 was stated to be the last one before being absorbed into MPG
>>10982122lol what a joke
>>10982506?
>>10980560Huh, I never knew Minor was that small.
>>10981260Hashtag?
>>10981098Crab general actually.
>>10982211We need people who don't understand the definition of words to stop having opinions imo.
>>10982628>Go out of my way to buy the Metals version of Rampage MIB>Open him up>Transmetal flakingGod FUCKING dammit!
>>10982185This is wild. I don't know hardly anything about Brave, but I love the GGGG designs and I have spent the past couple months thinking how strange it is that there's no good modern figures of them. I think there's a non-combining one that's somewhat recent, but I anaconda don't want none unless you gattai, hun.Really looking forward to this.
>>10981108>>10981110>>10981111Impossible Toys did this 10+ years ago and wound up selling their stock of 'em for $5 each. I bought their Glyph and Wasp.
>>10982792They have less people looking at their product.
>>10982792Impossible Toys versions looked like shit
>>10982792Back then TF wasn't as mainstream and full 3p toys were a rare oddity no one knew were to buy other than conventions.>>10982812They look the same, maybe a bit better since they removed tha plank behind the heads. Wonder why we haven't seen the back of the missing links tho.
Could Thundertron beat Captain Shark, Captain Zack, or Black Hook in a fight?
>>10982820>They look the sameMaybe if you're fucking blindIT torsos were too long and heads were too smallML has more pleasing proportions>inb4 YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE IT'S A SLAVISH RECREATION OF THE G1 TOYYes I am, thanks for noticing faggot
>>10982820>They look the sameNTA but the Impossible Toys versions were just too lanky. Part of the appeal of the OG Bee mold for me is how small and stumpy it is, something the Missinglink version nails perfectly, while The Impossible Toys verions look like they haven't finished going through their awkward teen years
>>10982825>torsos were too long and heads were too smallWrong, but IT has a bigger rear window, heads seem about the same size.If anything the legs are longer and skinnier on the IT, ML has better shoulders, still not worth the asking price.
>>10982836The unofficial one looks terrible.
Were peeps aware of the 40th anniversary prize draw last month? Cos, yeah...
Very nice box!
>>10982867You won?
Very nice, very fair trade offer by Galvatron
>>10982878Possibly
>>10982881>>10982882Ultra mega chicken?
>>10982882Wonder how many entries there were. Have fun at the screening.
Lamentation of a girthy tail
>>10982883No, just a regular space chicken.
>>10982886Cheers anon, it should be fun. I can only imagine there weren't many entries, otherwise how did I win? ha.
This pic convinced me to buy this guy. I wasn't sure based on the promo shots, but whoever posed him for this did a much better job showing off how good the articulation can look.
>>10982883>>10982889It's a good size
>>10982890Boater and the accessories.
>>10982895Co-Emperors of Destruction?
>>10982893I love when bots can do that neutral-heroic slight pelvic thrust. I pose them like that all the time.
>>10982867Damn, congratulations!>>10982893This happens with almost everything, a figure looks ok-fine in promo shots but in hand looks so much better.
>>10982919>a figure looks ok-fine in promo shots but in hand looks so much better.I think that's particualrly a problem with transformers because we don't always have clean silhouettes to work with, and it can be difficult to get a good idea of how the figure actually occupies 3D space, but on many bots, that can be mitigated with good posing.Despite the fact that ML Bee is so small and chunky and his arms are sort of a wheeled clusterfuck, >>10982893 does a great job of using the pose to suggest a line of action and to clearly show the humanoid framework among all the car parts.
>>10982893this shit still isn't worth 40 bucks
>>10982867>>10982877Great Victory (hehe) anon. Right now he is the best Haslab out of all options we got.
>>10982940Nothing is worth what it costs anymore and it's only gonna get worse. I try to enjoy what I can.
>>10982947you realize that logic is why companies can get away with charging more, right?
>>10982958Do you have an alternative?
>>10982995literally stop mindlessly consuming things for one fucking second
>>10983006>"stop mindlessly consuming things," he cried out, angry that he didn't have enough money to consume things
>>10982867Fug, I entered that thing too. Well, congrats anon, hope ya enjoy ;b
>>10983009Nobody cares about your headcanon, anon.
>>10982958It's only half the equation, really. The primary reason any company will always charge more for less over time is because, ever since the stock market became a thing, the implicit purpose of every business is to have infinite growth for their shareholders, which is both impossible and retarded.We're hitting a point where all the individual strands that factor into bottom line profit are finally being stretched to their limit. The only recourse is that the stranglehold on the consumer simply moves higher up the neck; you price a number of potential consumers out, while hoping that a smaller number of wealthier buyers will make up for it. This is why so much of Hasbro's output lately is ABSURDLY overpriced, and why they're banking more heavily than ever on nostalgia, and grooming their fanbase to expect to pay x-class prices for a y-class toy, and so forth.Of course, the tragic part of this is that it's true for all companies including ones that make essential products and not just toys. The process is still the same, though; they'll just keep charging more until they collapse and go bankrupt. Then everyone who purposefully steered the ship into an iceberg will peace out on a golden lifeboat and let everyone else deal with the consequences of their actions. Privatize gains; socialize losses. It's the late-stage capitalist playbook.tl;dr: greed ruins everything and there's nothing you can personally do to stop it, so buy whatever you want if you think it's worth it. We'll all be dead someday.
>>10982200Do you one better, here he is with animated prime.
Really made me remember how fun animated prime was as a figure. He just feels different.
>>10983048Being directly compared makes the new one feel less cool.
>>10983022careful, there's a retard ITT who will ban you for this because he thinks its communism when companies do things
>>10982544looks stupid as fuck
>>10982943nah
>>10983096fr fr yall if it ain't geewun boxes I don't fuck wit dat ong
>>10983100I can't tell what stereotype you're going for
>>10980486Did you fully pulled them up? mine spin fine.
>>10983048Being put side by side really makes it clear now, I couldn't place it before and thought it was the head, but it's the shoulders on the new fig that bother me; they're very high up, and are prolly the main contributor to his seeming-bloated proportions beyond the abdomen (which you fixed). Surprised that the new one's thighs really are shorter than the old one's, though, it really is noticable side-by-side.>>10983054Neat that he can still transform tho after the mod, I was thinking maybe he didn't have it in him anymore, lol.
>>10982716clearcoat spray might save it if it's not too bad already
>>10982836ah see, that one turned the wrist so the wheel was on top of the hand
>>10983009mindfully!
>>10983048it's funny the right's legs look longer yet they are clearly shorter or the same length.
>>10983075i mean, it is.literally anytime you hear someone whining about capitalism, what they're describing is companies who USED to, but no longer, engage in it, and have switched to communismanyway talk about transformers. how do you think the energon market works?
>>10983207Energon is a funny thing, in that it's electricity, bullets, and blood all at the same time narratively
>>10983213just like copper!
>>10983207lmao you fucking retard
>>10983207>how do you think the energon market works?Where do you even get it? I thought it was Primus blood that used to flow underground until they drained it all in a metaphor for peak oil theory.
>>10983269other planets I reckon? anywhere the vok seeded it..
>>10983269In the original cartoon, they could convert any other form of energy into energon, right? even simple heat. so the most logical thing would be to go station themselves near a star. but failing that, burning fuel, splitting atoms, or hooking turbines up to things that are moving already.
>>10983273>the most logical thing would be to go station themselves near a starMobile Decepticon Empire comprised of a dozen stars turned Shkadov thrusters and their myriad worlds sailing across the cosmos annexing new star systems and dragging them along with each new conquest.Shit, that could probably stand up to Unicron now that I think about it, more than swarming him with fleas at least.
>>10983281so was Megatron's megaproblem that he was stuck on earth and had to just make do? i know they didn't contact home for a while.
>>10983313Every time they went to go fill up at an oil rig or middle east country the Autobots showed up and started shooting at them.
>>10983324that part i'm aware of.
We should be getting all of the upcoming reveals next week
>>10983334I had to look it up to remind myself what those even were last time around. Super boring batch.
This guy has been in the box for a while now and I finally decided to open him up. Man, he is so good. Only thing I hate, is that you can’t flip the wings over his shoulders. They so could have added a mushroom peg to the wings. It would’ve been kinda ugly though but would fix the biggest strike on this figure.
>>10983334I know I've seen the pipeline reveals, but even looking at the pastebin I can't for the life of me recall what's actually coming next
>>10983340I'm hoping Straxus is good at least
>>10983360those feet would look way beftter if the big central joint was actually directly under his leg instead of shifted back.
>>10983334How hard will the cope be when another deluxe-priced but core-sized Bumblebee comes out but for SS86?
>>10983376>At least it doesn't partsform like the old one>Not a retailer exclusive
>>10983376Packed in Spike and box cardboard insert based on the "oh fuck its Unicron" scene.
>>10983048>>10983054Man, look at the difference in plastic quality
>>10983392how can you tell visually?
>>10983376Hope they take the tiny buzzworty headsculpt and upscale it, its the best bee head hastak has done, all their deluxe attemps suck.
>>10983395Some people are just born with that ability. The rest of us have to hit the plastic with a pencil to divine its quality.
>>10983395To me, it’s the grey plastics that make it easiest to tellIt always looks like it’s mixed poorly or something hasn’t bonded correctly, could even be a contaminant that they use for cleaningI have a feeling a lot of these toys are going to be brittle long before the older one
>>10977705how is studio series sideways?
>>10983432>>10983416>>10983395>>10983392they can't actually tell visually, they're making huge assumptions because of how plastics used to look versus today.Because plastic VISUAL quality used to be a much higher priority than plastic breakagemodern tf plastics are softer, so they have less of a shine to them, and don't look as good in photos, but it's part of what allows the parts count to get so high because they don't break as much.I remember TFAnimated, it's the toy series that my nephews all played with because they were the right age when it aired.They were really poorly build and broke easily, so we all stopped buying them.TFPrime toys got even worse.TFRiD2015 made their toys much more simple to deal with that problem, cyberverse changed the plastics (and were met with some of the worst yellowing ever) and who knows about earthspark.Meanwhile, generations prioritized function over form, studio series prioritized form over function, and you'll see a plastic difference between those two lines, but more SS have breaking problems than generations
>>10983454You are mistaking use of nylon with poorly mixed plasticsYou can see swirls in that greyNylon will have a soapy look to it bit you can still tell it’s well made
>>10983048Legacy's "legacy" is going to be to have at least one bot "update" from every previous Transformers toyline that is completely mogged by the original.They've already got:>G1>G2>RiD>Armada>Cybertron>Animated>PrimeI can't remember if there were any horrid Beast Wars or Energon updates in Legacy. It's hard to keep up with this shit.
>>10983454almost everything you said is retarded and wrong
>>10983334Straxus is the only one I'm much interested in seeing.
>>10983471>Beast WarsTigerhawk>Energoncore Megatron I suppose.
>>10983481oh yeah tigerhawk is destroyed by the original. despite its many flawstell you what, we need a 'missing link' tigerhawk in show colors and a slightly fixed tiger head.
>>10983481>core Megatron I suppose.He's really the only Energon dude we've gotten so far, right? But I don't think he's "mogged" by the original because he's not really trying to compete with the original. He's just a fun little ten-dollar dude.
>>10983480He's probably the bot with the most potential out of that selection, but it's probably the potential to go either way.
>page 9made a new one >>10983528
>>10983480for me, it's straxus and springerodds are I'll be disappointed with straxus though.
>>10983454>studio series >prioritize formOh no it's retarded...
>>10983048>>10983054The Legacy one is growing on me, sure it isn't as good as the original but I think he is charming enough
>>10983048Hm. I was not a big fan of the original Animated Prime, and initially though the new one looked good, but now I can see I was fooled. The old one is so much better. In fact, the new one looks so shit that it's made me appreciate the old toy for the first time. Goddamn changed my entire perspective.
