What is THE gamer's right of passage if you had to choose ONE?
>>10904098Contra is a baby game. Doung even just a single loop of Tiger Heli without dying will be a real test of your shooter chops
At the point we're at, if every /vr/ poster had beaten just one NES game, any one, it would improve the board's quality.
>>10904115based
>>10904117I did Street Fighter 2010, Contra without the konami code and Castlevania 1. Marios I don't count as hard, Ninja Gaiden still filters me to this day.
>>10904115>snail's pace choppy scrolling shmupslop
The Plutonia Experiment
>>10904117Don't make me insist on you beating Star Force.
>>10904148can't be harder than 1943 and Hector and I've done those
>>10904151good luck, sucker because SF (the US version, the Famicom one is easier) is one of the single most punishing games in the library
Challenging but not unreasonable, beating the special cup only requires effort and basic learning skills.Anybody that can't beat Nick and Rick shouldn't even be considered a gamer, you should be in the same class as Bejeweled grannies.
>>10904135>choppy scrollingGet a CRT or VRR monitor. It's only choppy because you're a poorfag on a fixed refresh rate display
>>10904151Where did this meme that 1943 is hard come from? The NES version no less, which is way easier than AC version
Might & Magic is also absolutely evil, one of the toughest in the US NES library.
Once you reach those block things that come out of the walls, game over. You won't get past them.
>>10904115Tiger Heli is not a hard game, it's a babby shooter compared to Starship Hector. It has a continue code as well; just hold A+B down on the Game Over screen.
>>10904098Prolly castlevania 1. Contra is also a great choice. Mario 3 no warps should be the absolute minimum standard for posting here.
Part of my "to beat" list. RPGs are marked with an asterisk.
>>10904215>two kiddie eduware games in the first tenprune out and delete all the garbage so you only play worthwhile stuff
>>10904098Solitaire
Any of the Koei games would also be punishing.
>>10904215I didn't even know Pool of Radiance was on NES
>>10904321Yes it came out pretty late though (1992) so I don't think it sold well. Advantage of no load times or obtuse keyboard commands like on C64.
>>10904320Based
Resident Evil. Since it takes an IQ of at least 100 to understand tank controls it would gatekeep effectively.
>>10904320He has one in the first 20 games.
>>10904365Ok but again you should chop out all the shovelware and sports games.
>>10904365>>10904215how did you make these lists up? is this RNG or what?
>that thread about projector TVsGod my head hurts from the stupidity of that OP.
>>10904190I'm not talking about a multiple credit shitclear (not even a clear at that), I'm talking the Arcade game, not the easy NES version, no-miss (no deaths) at least one loop.I've done two loops no death of the Arcade version, it's absolutely brutal
>>10904190Starship Hector is only a 12/50 on the shmup difficulty list, that's pretty damn easy. Try playing some actual hard shmups.
>>10904429Compared to US Star Force no it's not that bad.
>>10904431Star Force NES is 16, Star Force AC is 28. For comparison, two loops of Tiger-Heli AC nomiss would be about 41You don't really have context on the difficulty here. Check out the wikia list, the Perikles list, the dumplechan list, or the Mariax nomiss list for an idea on difficulty
Endurance is important. Part of the Rites should be to simply complete Ikari Warriors 1 and 2 on the NES and yes, ABBA is allowed.
>>10904467They're not that bad if you use the continue feature. Also TMR stubbornly refused to use the ABBA thing on IW1 so he had a horrible slog lasting like 6 videos he didn't have to do.
>>10904098Getting a girlfriend
>>10904365>96>100>102don't do this to yourself, man
>>10904471A right of passage is usually something that can actually be achieved though.
>>10904481Those stupid Gametek games aren't that bad, it's mostly just answering a bunch of outdated trivia questions about 1970s pop culture that people back in 1990 would have been familiar with. Try an actually pitiless game like Star Force, Might & Magic, or Championship Lode Runner.
>>10904215starting with Ultima III is going to be rough
>>10904098This or or Ninja Gaiden trilogy.I beat them all when I was like 10-12. Kids now die once & they throw a fit. Little autistic shits have no idea.
>>10904507I'm not going to be doing Championship Lode Runner either because I'm not an idiot. I tried to play Transformers once or twice, didn't get past level 1.
>>10904471that's gay though
>>10904365this will not work unless you make a curated list of around 200 good games and remove the garbage
forget ever beating Adventure Island, you can't do it. no one can without a Gamie Genie.
Duke Nukem or Metal Slug
>>10904648You've never played Famicom Contra or realize how much got chopped out if you think the US version is better. Konami were justly proud of the VRC2 and flaunted it in trade ads for the game.
>>10904691It's literally just cutscenes and some effects. The only actual gameplay change is Contra FC starts on equivalent of NES loop 2 difficulty
>>10904098Why is the box all wrong? The alien's head is too big too.
>>10904691Famidaily clearly likes this game and knows a lot about it but in his review video he repeated a couple disproven memes such as the Famicom version not having the 30 lives code (it is in there) and that Nintendo banned them from using third party mappers on US cartridges which I believe was an urban myth since RBI Baseball and a few other games from the same period had a Namco mapper in them. It was most likely switched to UNROM for cost reasons.
Contra was not a Japanese hit; it was a lot more popular in the West.
>>10904720It's not cute or Dragon Quest enough. Konami were always a Western-focused company who liked making gritty games that didn't appeal to the home market so much.
>>10904653>Honestly this is retarded and you should kys. Why subject yourself to thisBut why, some say, the Moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic? Why does Rice play Texas?We choose to go to the Moon. We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
>>10904751>playing Mega Man is the same thing as going to the Moonthe absolute state of zoomers
>>10904751>The unexplored frontier of some random obscure Famicom game that's just sitting right there in some ROM collection, which anyone could have touched at any point in historyDamn, can't wait.
>>10904434links?
>>10904781If you know you know
>>10904636>forget ever beating Adventure Island, you can't do it. no one can without a Gamie Genie.many of us beat that when we were like 8. git gud.
>>10904181It's just basic pattern memorization.
>>10904215I think the SNES library would be more of a slog for a number of reasons.
>>10904215good luck. you're going to need it.
>>10904547the goal was to play every NES game not every SNES one, retard
>>10904098super mario bros because it was a pack in and a success with good reason.
one of those major NES titles i never got around to playing for some reason
>>10904098Not contra coz it's easy. The sequels got progressively harder, but the first one is a piece of piss.>>10904135>choppy scrollingOnly if you're emulating it incorrectly (at the wrong refresh rate for eg).>>10904519GnG on the NES is difficult not because it was made that was on purpose.It's difficult because the studio who did the port (micronix) were fucking incompetent. The frame rate is a disaster and the collision detection is an absolute joke, and the controls are just dog shit.
>>10904098You have to clear Zelda II and you have to have fun while doing it.If you can't do both of those things, you are /not a gamer/, period.
>>10904765He isn't wrong though. It's all built from the same building blocks. The desire to take on a challenge, versus the fear and hedonism of shirking away from it to do only easy, simple things that lack risk. All behavioral patterns follow the dopaminergic system and some patterns are deemed more morally acceptable than others. Novelty aside (the first time accomplishing a challenge is generally rated higher than the 150000th), the differences here are mostly just a matter of scale.What is utterly bizarre is that zoomers are actually *afraid* of playing video games.>what if i miss an item>what if i die>what if i have to repeat content>what if i clear it and it doesn't say 100% at the end>i better beg for tips and research everything about this game before i play it>i better beg for opinions about which version to play, whether there's any necessary "romhacks" for slow children, whether it's " worth it " to even play at all, like i'm making a serious life decision like buying a new house or naming my firstborn son>WHAT. IF. I. DON'T. HAVE. FUN.These sad garbage-people actually feel *stress and anxiety* over starting a new retro video game for all those listed reasons and more. It's INSANE. The only thing more insane is why they come *here* of all places instead of staying on their discords. Who, goddamnit, who keeps linking us to them?
>>10904215>pool of RadianceNic->on NESOH fuck what are you doing nigger?
>>10905289it's a list of NES games retard
What is bullshit 'enough'?
>>10904519What did Capcom mean by having Arthur leap like that...Looks almost based.I will now play your game.
>>10905320He's just replicating 3/4ths of a traditional indian peace symbol. His ingame jumping sprite only replicates 1/2 of it thoughI hope your people will be restricted from spewing such garbage on the internet soon enough :)
>>10904098Ninja Gaiden. Fuck Ninja Gaiden. It should be mandatory to play this for a minimum of 50 hours before you're allowed to play any other video game.
Legendary Wings. Basic pattern recognition, difficulty ramps up nicely towards the end of each level.. It feels like a true accomplishment, its not super difficult but eases you into pushing harder.I really like it. I feel like it's a good "right of passage"
>>10905320No you won't, fuckboy. The game's gonna spank you and you'll run home crying.
>>10904120>Street Fighter 2010I was able to beat that as a kid, so I feel that is a good choice. Was not able to beat Ghosts and Goblins nor Ninja Gaiden, so it's not like I was some elite gamer as a kid.
>>10904098If you know the konami code, you might be a gaymer. If you like both smb 1-3 and sonic 1-3, you are certified no bullshit a gamer.
>>10904098when you play a game, and then when you're not, your thoughts are preoccupied with when you get to play the game next.
>>10905446>Been thinking about how shit I am at blue spheres in both S3&K and mania>all I want to do is perfect all 32I wouldn't call that the proto-typical gamer mindset, I legit just have average sonic autism. That and I've never gotten the chaos emeralds in 3 and I really want the self bragging rights of doing it.
>>10904215The Guardian Legend > Gun-Nac > Zanac
>>10904798>>10904798No, you didn't.
>>10904365>>10904215This makes so little sense to me. How were these picked? Are these games you have played a little, find you liked and want to go back to? If not, what happens when you start a game you just plain don't enjoy playing?
>>10905623According to his list he has generations to figure that out, no need to rush him.
>>10904365>>10904215It's a good thing to have a system like that to push your curiosity to check games you wouldn't have checked otherwise. For instance I would almost never play a playstation puzzle or text-graphic adventure game, but since the NES/FC is my favourite platform, I love trying those out. This can help broaden your horizons especially at an age where tastes tend to become one-sided.But, if you check something out and after 30 mins you don't like it and there is no indication it would get different, you should stop playing.My advice from someone who's beaten 350 NES/FC games.
>>10905629>According to his list he has generations to figure that out, no need to rush him.???
>>10905623>This makes so little sense to me. How were these picked?It was part of a "beat all NES games" challenge. The list was generated in RNG order.
>>10904798AI and Battletoads weren't an issue to beat back in the day on an actual console+CRT TV, it only started to become a "problem" with laggy emulators.
Getting true ending in Contra: Shattered Soldier
>>10905303Never play retro CRPG on consoles. It's blasphemy!
maxing out NES Tetris
>>10904098One of the first 5 Megaman games. I had the 10(?) year anniversary edition on the game cube when I was growing up and they were some of the most challenging games I’ve ever played and managed to beat. I tried playing them on the PC recently, and I can’t do it anymore.
>>10904098this cover is so retarded, even the title is taken from the latest hollywood slop.
>>10904751>Why does Rice play Texas?Wtf does this even mean? AI or ESL?
>>10904208Man, I suck at platformers. Can beating a similar challenge in a different genre count too? I've 1CCed Time Crisis 2.
Spelunker>teachesforces the player to adapt and learn cumbersome/archaic controls, which is still pretty manageable with patience>score attack game so encourages getting good and going for 100%>can be "beaten" fairly quickly>later loops require memorizing area layouts and item placement>sovlfvl arcadey graphics
>>10907072yeah any 1cc of a classic arcade game is legit. I'm not super familiar with light gun games, but I've played them casually enough to know that they are hard and take plenty of skill.
>>10907225I love this game and played it far more often than I should have. I still remember the password I found messing around. I think it was all L's than 1 M at the end. Gives you all 4 pieces of the will to start the game.
>>10904115most retro games are baby games anon. you only think they're hard because you played them as a dumb kid and/or didn't know better.
>>10904098Honestly, this is a solid choice. It has a reputation for being balls hard, but it really is a quite easy game if you stop running headfirst into danger, take it slow and learn it.
>>10907275brits
Gradius is the clear choice. Simple and fun but genuinely difficult and a unique experience that had a large influence.
>>10904765Both endeavors are equally useful
>>10907281Try to play one at least once in your life.
>>10904215How do you beat...Pinball?
Being able to beat any Mario 1-3 without warp
>>10907304Gradius is the choice if you want an easy NES clear, the arcade version is a kick in the dick in comparison however.
>>10910073yeah that's one of the most cake NES shooters. an 8 year old could beat that one along with Tailspin.
no NES shmup is particularly hard compared to arcade shmups
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10904098/#q10907554I assume you would be allowed to skip sports crap.
>>10904098>gamer's right of passageI don't quite understand what it means exactly.Beat something that is mechanically complex or execution-heavy and have fun while doing it, I guess.
>>10910314hopefully racing games because few things bore me to death more than that shit
>>10906891
>>10907336https://w.atwiki.jp/famicomall/pages/769.html
>>10904098If you haven't played Super Mario Bros. then it'd be weird to be on /vr/.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10904098/#q10907225kek I never played this one so I'll have to take your word for it
>>10904098Pac Man or Donkey Kong.
>>10907128>LET'S START ON ANOTHER ADVENTURE !!man don't tell me to start another goddamn adventure, i just won this one i want to enjoy my wealththere should be a game where after you win and collect all the treasure there's one final minigame at the end where you piss it all away on hookers and booze
>>10907281>most retro games are baby games anonCan you provide an example of a non-baby game?
>>10904215Imagine convincing yourself of this.
>>10911371what does that even mean? i swear this board is getting more zoomer/low IQ/hostile//v/tard lately.
>>10911406Probably a bot
>>10911406look just because TMR or somebody beat the whole NES library doesn't mean it's a good idea or you'd be able to as well
>>10911432nigger
>>10904215>literal, actual, discord zoomer faggot checklistHow the fuck do you actually live? Serious question. How do you survive without a soul, just numbly going through a dumb fucking list like this so you can say you "cleared" them?
>>10911454See >>10911406
>>10911432what's wrong with him taking on a challenge like that? you may give yourself a chance to step out of your comfort zone and try games and genres you wouldn't normally be into.
I think I'm missing some context here. you guys are calling the 10904215/10904365 poster a zoomer because the list was not compiled by himself but is rather some kind of a scavenger hunt challenge created by an eceleb, right?
>>10911501I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it. Just zoomers calling other anons zoomers.
>>10904365>>10904215Let us know how it goes>>10911501Stop giving attention to shitposters, there is nothing to understand but shitposting
>>10911516See >>10911539 and >>10911454
>>10911482if you do something because an e-celeb did it first you already forfeited your right to live
>>10904120I've beaten ninja gaiden 1 and 2 but gave up on the final level of SF2010
>>10911670SF2010 has unlimited continues, it's not that hard.
>>10911683Just because it has unlimited continues doesnt mean it's easy. It's still one of the hardest games to beat. You're just talking bullshit on the Internet, on /vr/, you are the smallest fish in the smallest barrel.
>>10911704>barrelPond*
>>10911738Square's Tom Sawyer does not have a translation. Though there is a thorough guide on gamefaqs.
>>10911775nta but it's mostly translated, i think only the last chapter isn't
>>10911780No, only the first town is. Like 10% of the game.
>>10904098Battletoads. Arcade or NES
>>10904151Oh it is.
>>10904161"Gamer" in modern speak means you play live service slop, stream, have a gaudy neon set up and 50/50 chance you cut your PP off. Do you really want society to give you that label?
>>10911845I counted 11 baseball games in the US NES library. Japan however...jesuschristhowhorrifying.avi
>>10911860>>10904151I found it an odd omission that Chrontendo only mentioned Famicom Star Force and seemed to forget the US release existed.
>>10904471You wouldn't be a gamer after that.
>>10911872that's pretty fucking bad especially considering in a lot of cases they're all very similar. there's only so many ways you can design a baseball game around the NES hardware even factoring in ROM and mapper variations.
>>10911454This nigga getting triggered by lists.
>>10911631Guess all of us should stop playing games.
The bosses in Star Force are pushovers, it's getting to them in the first place that will twist your sanity.
I used to play Star Force in the arcade. I never got 50k bonus for killing Rarios before it merged.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9J1s8MSs6A
>>10911738Delete all the sports games for sanity's sake.
>>10911853just play the Genesis or the nerfed Famicom Battletoads instead
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10904098/why were like 40 posts in this thread deleted?
>>10913049thanks, this explains a lot. I missed >>10904464 specifically where anon proudly admitted to be copycating a bunch of ecelebs.
