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total furfag death

>What is /fag/?
This is the Furry Art General thread, here we post everything related to kemono, furry, and animals alike.

>Rules & Guidelines
Please refrain from flaming, causing drama or replying/feeding those who cause such.
This is a SFW thread only, please take caution so you don't get BANNED for posting NSFW art.
This general is NOT and NEVER will be affiliated with any discord servers, DO NOT click any of the discord links that are spammed here!
As always, don't be afraid to ask for critique!

>Resources
https://www.lackadaisycats.com/ishkabibble.php
https://x6ud.github.io/
https://sketchfab.com/calacademy

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>>7171245
>looking forward to the rest of it, anon.
Thanks, but that were supposed to be the last pages. I don't actually want to draw them fucking
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>>7171231
It’s good to be back! I haven’t drawn anything worthwhile in a couple months. And to answer your question, probably her. She’s the one they enjoy bullying the most.
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>>7171245
The more I think about it the more I realise That the "sinister" panel is a pretty bad idea. Will definitely change it.
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>>7171247
>>7171261
>supposed to be the last pages
s'all good, we all have our boundaries.

>That the "sinister" panel is a pretty bad idea
I think if you tone down the intensity it'll do you wonders. I hope I'm not overstepping bounds with a suggestion, but maybe take a few of panels to show him getting up, her reaction being confused or ashamed about to pull away, then he pulls her in for the kiss in the catbox page?

I will say that your comic is very well done, anon. do you have a blog or anything to follow? Would be great to see more of your stuff.
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>>7171290
>I hope I'm not overstepping bounds with a suggestion
Definitely not, I got additional feedback from another board and I also had to explain the intent behind the panel, so there has to be some kind of change. It seems clear that most people will not get it in the current state.
As for your suggestion, I kinda want him to do it apruptly to set a contrast in relation to the rest of the comic, where anon is just overall really passive, so I'll have to convey it in a single panel. And also because I'm too lazy.
And don't feel bad for suggestin stuff. It just shows that you care, which is cool.

Here is my blog:
https://x.com/_NoConcession_

How do I learn to paint like this?
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look for books on traditional painting techniques, alla prima and basic use of oil paints, , based on this image you should study John Singer Sargent and read Richard Schmid
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just train for a day
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>>7170518
don't listen to him, this is anything but alla prima. you cannot achieve that sharpness wet on wet even if you were working from a photo all day.
how it was probably done in the old days
>artist roughed in the pose, with the face (and maybe hands as well) blank
>the client would pose and they'd get as much done as possible in the couple hours or less
>finish in a studio over a month or so
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>>7170514
you learn to draw first

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Any terrible experiences/stories of past or current clients?
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>>7171113
I dont mind doing it, but I cant post it on my page and increase my numbers with pictures of zelda turning into a horse
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>>7171147
This. If you retards dont do this then ngmi
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Redpill me on scatfags
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>>7171113
Could be talking about a client at his job. Can't just refuse a client that your boss is giving you.

Also for artists who this doesn't apply to it's the same reason you work a job you don't like. Money is necessary to survival. Sometimes you have to do things you don't want to do.
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>>7171109
>Take commission Idea you don't like
>Not do said idea of the client, who paid money for it, cause its "bad"
>Thinking you are in the right

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Is there an art course or book that shows how to shade like the GOATS but in digital? When I use fountain pens and map pens on paper, it's not hard. When I try to do it in digital I don't know what the fuck to do to get same results. In fact, mangaka who do digital art have dogshit shading.
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>>7170069
>just like toriyama
Counterpoint
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>>7170069
>toriyama is shit at storytelling
...in the opposite dimension.
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>>7167621
this entire thread is retarded. its called rendering not shading. older mangaka used ink and zippatone/toner packs for everything. modern shitters use clip studio and blender and similar programs for it. some do mix of trad and digital. for soem artists theyll render with copic for grey tones or if doing color pages. others bust out gouache or water color.

the issue with modern digital versions is they arent even inking the hatching or other lines. its all with digital brushes so you get the same look and generic linework with no variations. across so many no talent 3d tracers, it blends together and gives the modern shit look to all manga. the lack of imperfections in the linework and hatching is the major imperfection of modern manga. it also leads to the faux amateur look gege and chainsaw guy do. they are blatant 3d models and objects for everything but the chicken scratch lines and shit looking art let people forgive it somehow. like they believe its just bad artist and not deliberate shitter.
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>>7170335
>this entire thread is retarded.
>Reply is nothing other than regurgitated advice from previous posts in the thread.
>Somehow manages to get the information wrong anyway.
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>>7167651
Rattoreipā X 2099 (Rat Raper X 2099

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Video Course General v.28

Hampton edition

>Matrix channel
https://element.anontier.nl/#/room/#ic:anontier.nl

# TORRENT
qbittorrent
https://www.qbittorrent.org/download.php
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins#readme
https://ngosang.github.io/trackerslist/

The rutracker search plugin has some nma stuff


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>>7171233
yeah, as long as you have the exact same files, if you put them in the folder the torrent expects to see them in it'll work.
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>>7171148
i used to but I deleted it, it's in the gram does
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>>7170444
Anyone?
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>>7171190

Only the course with feedback is that expensove. The barebones one without feedback is 260 or soemthing. Still expensive but not outrageously so.
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>>7171234
Makes sense then I can help this anon here:
>>7171027
>can someone seed, been stuck at 0% for 24 hours
I have the exact files of the torrent he wants.
>Picrel is exactly the same as the torrent

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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7139494

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga

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>>7171025
As in be a Renaissance Man. Philosophers in the general Italian/Greek region have long since emphasized that it's not enough to be smart or to be fit, a true scholar develops their mind and body simultaneously. Nothing should be left lacking.
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>>7171107
to my understanding no such thing exists
the best I can offer is Mangadex has the first part of the book translated followed by the first three sections of part 2
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>>7171076
no there's so much more anon
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>>7171116
The Greeks are dead and old. I'd rather draw.
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>>7170933
https://e-hentai.org/s/a3ec15320b/2909455-461

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What's the best art advice you received?
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>>7170398
This is the biggest permabeg cope ever. You'll never make it
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>>7168853
don't shade with black outside of comic book style
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>>7170398
>tekken
>relaxing time

Heh
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>>7168853
just trace
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>>7168853
>make thumbnails before commiting to a finished work
>flip canvas

worst advice:
>don't use lasso tool
>don't use soft brush
>don't use smudge

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Hi /ic/
Can you criticize my silent comic
I still an amateur and developing my skills, practicing every day despite my busy university scheduleand your advices and criticism is really important for me because it's direct and real (not sugar coated like the one's I got from my peers)
Thank you
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Some panels are great
And the others are kinda flat
Try to maintain the same level of details in every panels
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Since I follow the OP
He posted this today with this caption :
"Today is my birthday
I'm always trying to develop my skills in drawing so I can make people happy and in the same time to express a feeling or opinions
That's why to celebrate this occasion, here's a drawing of a girl holding a slice of watermelon


#freepalestine"
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>>7169708
Happy birthday OP
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>>7169708
>#freepalestine"

back to r.ddit faggot
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>>7170387
>Kike detected
At least wish for the OP a happy birthday or stfu

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Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check archives and active /ic/ threads for references.

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Beg here, why have I not seen anybody on /ic/ ever mention Richard Smitheman b4? I've tried a bunch of different approaches to get my figure drawing to be competent but his method was by far the most informative to capture both gesture + anatomy.

I do think you have to learn some of the fundamentals else where but once I felt ready for figures, his livestreams did wonders
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I should do more gestures/ short figures
Seeing some really nice figures here in pencil, am I punishing myself with pen at the cost of being more dynamic?
Maybe I just need to get bigger balls.

>>7170041
thankyou, I like how you iterate most of them, looks pretty effective
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1m to 15m. I'm being able to do so much with the time that I think my next step is thinking of finding the most attractive sections of figures and doing more work in them, proportions are sliightly off but shouldn't be too hard to correct
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>>7168005
doodlin' while watching the 5th element, tough to draw on the couch. Went back today and filled in some blank spaces.

>>7168198
I never really took a course, kinda just cobbled together different lessons from all over the palce. Proko, Hide, Hampton, randoyoutuber69420, sinix, etc. looks like you're going with hampton, let us know how it goes!
>>7168817
nice studies
>>7169828
lookin' good!
>>7170041
these are good sessions, maybe take a little time after each one, and do some takeaways. like, "I learned this today"
>>7170862
never heard of Smitheman, I'll take a look. thanks for sharing.
>>7170919
I like some of those faces! I use all kinds of pens/pencils. Don't give yourself arbitrary rules on what you have to use.

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Finally managed to draw some timed gestures again

Last one: >>7121414
A bad sharpener will slow you down and ruin your pencils.
A good sharpener is like a fresh breath of air, such as pic.
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>>7170504
The chink copied it and sell 20 cents each. Quality is the same.
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>>7170805
what proxy did you use
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>>7170825
Dejapan shipped them, but when I wanted to buy Holbein paint I used blackship. You have to email and ask before ordering for most art supplies
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>>7165934
thanks anon
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>>7170638
Do you use anything in particular to get nice solid layers with colored pencils? Too much grainy white gives it a kid look

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Can someone explain how people complain about calarts then go around enjoying something like pic related? Both styles are kinda just ugly copy n past slop to me
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>>7170203
I still find it retarded how genshin has 8 characters with a loli body type, but no male equivalent
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>>7170357
This man understands.
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>>7170811
the mc and their boyfriend both have aids. I am not even joking
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>>7170203
the people complaining about calarts are not the same people who play genshit. The retards that enjoy this nuweeb shit are the other side of the coin of calartsfags. Once again, both sides are retarded and I'm right.
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>>7170336
They really did him dirty holy shit

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No /TRAD/ general? Aight, this will be the trad general. Post your recent trad artworks/WIPs in this thread.

I will begin. Will really appreciate critiques.
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>>7170101
It's a commission for a Catholic church.
Even if it is for study, it is still good to make a large piece. In the pursuit of excellence.
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>>7169894
Looking good!
THat lock of hair comming out of his sideburn instead of behind the ear is kinda weird but it's all pretty clean.
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>>7169894
too dark but still great
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>>7168743
You're great with contrasts, everything really pops.
>>7169894
Looks great! I personally enjoy painting animals and little landscapes in watercolor (probably because one can be a bit more "sloppy"), but struggle with portraits.
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>>7168743
I didn't catch the little girl on the path the first time I looked at it, and Im jealous of your contrast control. It is both technically good, and fun to look at as well.

Thoughts?
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>>7170943
The truck has a ballsack?
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>>7171013
It's a fine balance that I have not found yet.
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>>7171164
It's new; Trump is known to wear diapers, so his supporters are trying to embrace it with t-shirts and other paraganglia.
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>>7170943
Add something about being proud to be circumcised

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>There is one thing not to do, and that is simply to drift along with the daily routine, making no extra effort. You will soon find yourself middle-aged, having done nothing more than routine jobs, and being little farther along than you were years ago. The extra effort is the difference between the great mass of mediocre artists and the comparatively small group of very good ones.
>And in Art, study can never stop. You will find sketches galore in the studio of the good man, with the paint quite fresh. The mediocre artist's sketches are old and dusty.
>I have seen so many middle-aged artists still hoping, whose samples are frayed at the edges, and thumb-marked with time. Sometimes it has been a matter of years since they sat down and actually did something to give their hopes any promise. They are plodding their lives away at something they hate, and doing nothing about it. These are the men who never seem to have had a chance. The truth is, they never seized a chance.
- Andrew Loomis, Creative Illustration

/Studies/ General is all about improving your art and never settling for mediocrity. Every artist is a student, forever and ever. Anybody, from beginner to pro, can post here. Any style is accepted. Critiques are welcome and encouraged. Let's make this a productive thread!

Read the fucking sticky: http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Recommended Resources:
https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

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>>7170017
I have no clue what I am doing
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>>7171060
girl on the center came out great!
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>>7171093
>>7171095
>>7171098
frick, I need to change my filenaming system somehow. someone can just impersonate me and do something horrible

the point here is to not gang up on you or bully you. I was much the same, when I started drawing. I wanted to master it in 2 years and get into calarts and break into the animation industry, all in one shot, like some kind of prodigy. Things don't work out like that most of the time.

For me, it's been years and years of struggling and copying and trying to learn to draw. You think you've drawn a ton? Really? Have you drawn for 10 years? Often it takes 10 years to become a professional artist. You can do it in 3 years if you can summon the stamina to do studies for 8 hours a day (a true 8 hours a day, not a distracted 8 hour session.) Either way, it's a lot, and it's not good to assume that you are working hard enough. You can always work harder and learn more.

My art actually looked exactly the same as yours for about 4 years, because I was just copying with no strategy. Tons of "gesture drawing" and "force drawing". Your work looks the same. Are you using an under-drawing? I suggest an underdrawing and strict construction. My advice was bad. Don't do the shape stuff. Use very strict construction, and keep your proportions very careful, while also observing accurately. Each drawing should take MINIMUM 20 minutes. Maybe 30 minutes. 2 years ago, when this general was /msg/, I spent 45 minutes copying a single anime face from Witch Hat Atelier. This is just the kind of effort it takes. When you've done a study, and you think you've done your best, drag your drawing OVER THE REF and check where you are off.

Since you're kinda still at a beginner level, you may as well start over correctly and do the David Finch roadmap, combined with the Krenz Cushart Lecture. You're a neet, right? Do 3 hours in Krenz, and 3 hours in the Finch roadmap.

>>7171112
very nice anon
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>>7171181
thanks anon <3
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I have serious reason to believe that I'm suffering from some form of profound mental retardation. Otherwise I can't explain why I've spent so many hours today planting these shadows. On the one hand, I think I'd be better off spending that time drawing, but on the other hand, it feels like a good exercise that makes me think about light and 3D space. Also, I think I need to do more of these with simpler shapes, just to get used to them and then move on to the next chapters, also it would be nice to do a big scene with nothing but boxes and overlapping shadows.
I think it's a good thing that I want to do more of them to understand them, but it's a bad thing that it's taking me so long and I'm not adding complex figures yet.

>>7169203
Nah, it's just a regular hard round, as anon mentioned, opacity has nothing to do with a brush being hard or soft. I just added a little colour variation and lowered the hardness to 85

.>>7169341
Thank you.

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Post art channels that actually teach you how to draw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0BiZIykh0
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>>7167486
You know the difference between Japanese cartoonists and cocksuckers like you, that Japanese artists highly value their country and their industry, unlike you, who dedicate yourself to criticizing and tearing down the West.
You are worse than a crab, you are literally an idiot.
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>>7168488
You are literally seething right now
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>>7168596
>You are literally seething right now

stop projecting
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>>7168611
didn't know that meme was still around on the internet, brings back memories.
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