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Why does every GMC and Ford EV cost over a hundred thousand dollars when Tesla can scrape against $30k?
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>>27678231
no mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the wheels.
im sure its fine
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>>27677101
Executive embezzlement
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>>27678176
>stopped reading
That's fine, it's all you need to know.
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>>27678231
You definitely drink onions and have 6 different female bosses
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>>27678230
kek

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Is it worth spending 40k for a Toyota that is slow, reliable, comfy, and boring?
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>>27678612
That's a good thing. The Camry is a great car.
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>>27678612
>>27678784
It's not a like the camry tho performance wise or mileage. Even the Hybrid is worse. It's more on par with the Crown. Interior wise it's like a mix of latest Crown / older Camry. Looks way better than a Crown from the outside tho by a mile. No idea how the two compare in comfort of the ride, that would probably be the real deciding factor.

or just go with a fully upgraded Camry XSE or XLE, in fact that's probably the better route. Get all the bells and whistles, nicer trims to match and way better mileage.
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40k? I'm a thousand Sons man myself
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>>27678586
No. For 40k you could get a nice 80's toyota.
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I love the idea of these
It's got a stupid iPad dash tho
Otherwise, I'd buy it over some German plastic fantastic thing

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which one?

No other brands, please, I’m an europoor, stuff like Flex and Rigid doesn’t exist here.
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>>27677384
>Why would anybody mislead and lie on the internet? Why do you think the 3.0CP packs are so much larger than the 2.0 packs?
kek I didn't even have to tell you that you're wrong, the poster under you did it for me
your tools look brand new, you're a little bitch who does a few brake jobs a year and nothing more, rigid is the perfect brand to go with for a little bitch who does nothing like you
meanwhile I'm out here doing LS swaps, diesel swaps, body swaps on cars, 4wd conversions, custom fabrication and welding, and I use Milwaukee because they have the best selection of tools that just work
your tools look like you've used them one fucking time on some light duty shit and you're going on about how durable they are, you're a fucking pathetic joke dude lmao
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>>27677904
This is the type of person who brags about having 15 cars in their front lawn.

>2.5/5
Do they even make the 3.0Ah 3-cell pack anymore? They probably had to discontinue the thing after realizing what a horrible idea was just like when they tried to lower the parts count in the 2767 Fuel impact and they were all breaking. You’re probably buying NOS if you find one in a kit.
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>>27666567
>costs just as much as any of the major brands
Wrong.
>Horrible customer service and warranty
5 year warranty no questions asked. Swap it out for a new one in store. No sending it off and waiting and all that bullshit.
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Kek @ number of filtered out posts
Good job OP
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>>27678420
>Do they even make the 3.0Ah 3-cell pack anymore?
Yes retard, they do, and yes this is the automotive board made for people who own 15 cars and decent tools
Your tools have zero use on them because you don’t do shit except the occasional brake job or some shit

2010 Town Car with 90k miles. This has to be a granny driven car, right?
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>>27679317
Yeah but I'm guessing these cars are usually driven by people who take care of them, like boomers with money.
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>>27679327
I personally wouldn't touch it with a 20' pole but you do you anon. It's ugly as fuck and not old enough to be cool
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>>27679339
Spoken like someone who has never taken a ride in one.
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>>27679352
What kind of argument is that? I can be comfier in something older and cooler that isn't some busted piece of shit late 2000's ford.
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>>27679314
They call it the Town Car 'cause it's got it's own zip code.

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I spot 1 of these near-every single day at worst, and often a handful or more at best.
Supposedly the 1.6's had shittier engines but most 1.4's are still going strong.
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>>27678497
Huh, so Peugeot has made reliable cars in the past? Explains why there are so many old ones running around here, too.
I think their more recent small engines use an EcoBoost-style wet belt that can go bad within 40k miles if it doesn't like the oil (or whatever else the engine's leaked into it).
Suppose a belt can be very quiet and efficient like that, until something very noisy and inefficient happens.
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>>27678556
yeah retarded emission standards are responsible for so many horrible engines it's fucking criminal at this point
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>>27678543
I always cringed at these until I saw one with the most based custom exhaust and spoiler setup imageable.
It sounds and looked like a gag but you could see that the owner was 100% genuine about it.
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>>27678497
Later model Twingos. Early ones have almost all died of terminal rust, but I still see plenty of facelifted ones trucking around.
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>>27678727
Twingo looks based

Is this the last "I don't care it'll get me there" car you can buy?
>2017->2019 Escape S
>2.5l port injection NA 4 cylinder
>traditional automatic
>no touch screen
>very modern so no worries of old seals, pipes, wires
>no weeb tax
I know crossovers aren't popular and I know the fusion has the same drivetrain but honestly if you can get a better seating position and a hatchback for about the same price then why not?
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>>27678785
This. I'm hoping they hit a huge depreciation on the pre owned market, looking to get one next year after leases are up
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>>27678785
>>27678814
Why?
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>>27678785
> 137 hp and 162 lb-ft torque
>1.2T
lmao
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>>27678736
The CX5 is superior in every way. It’s basically of that but with direct injection and Japanese workmenship.
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>>27679219
>but with direct injection
Which is exactly why it's worse

So I am in the market of car since I decided to gift my old corolla to my mother. Fuck if this is not the worst car market in, probably, ever. Prices of used cars are insane and new ones are not much better but they do make sense from a value standpoint. So after doing my research and a couple of test drives I am down to these 4 offerings that are generally within my budget of 25k.

>Suzuki Vitara mhev(1.4lt 130ps)(new)
This is the cheapest option.Did a test drive. Not bad driving dynamics, comfortable suspension. Got offered sticker price with some "free" addons for the mid tier trim. Service and parts are cheap and it comes with a 5year/100k km warranty. They don't seem to depreciate much too.
>Hyundai i30 fastback MY2024 mhev(1.5lt 160ps)(new)
Test drive went okay. Kinda stiff suspension, certainly more fun to drive than the Vitara. Generally better equipped even though its the entry level trim. More expensive as well. The offer was 250euroshekels below MSRP but still the second most expensive option at 24k. 5 year/unlimited mileage warranty.
>Nissan Juke hybrid(1.5lt 141ps)(new)
The only reason I am even considering this is because the dealers seem to run some promo right now and they advertise it at well bellow msrp. Even then it still stretches my budget at 25,5k euroshekels. Comes with the most equipment out of all the other options. From what I read online they seem to be just ok but the hybrid system is said to be second only to Toyotas and with petrol prices being near the 2euro/lt that is definitely something to consider. 3 years / 100k klm warranty.
>Toyota Corolla Sedan hybrid(1.8lt 122ps)(used)
Well its a Toyota. It drives fine but it feels really slow. I am not crazy with the CVT that many toyotafags claim its magic, but Toyota also claims insane mileage and very low CO2 emissions which mean very low or 0 road tax as well. I can get a decent 2-3yo with about 50k klm entry/mid trim for about the price of the new Vitara.
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>>27673736
What you don't mention in your OP is whether you can charge the hybrids at home. Discounting that I'd probably choose the Suzi, then Corolla, Hundy, Juke last. Suzuki's have low service and repair costs.
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>>27678531
>What you don't mention in your OP is whether you can charge the hybrids at home.
Because they are all self-charging hybrids?
>Discounting that I'd probably choose the Suzi, then Corolla, Hundy, Juke last.
I will probably drop the juke. I really dislike these over-stylized cuckovers. I find the juke less offensive than the likes of C-HR but still. The only reason I was considering it was because it is a "cheap" hybrid but I really doubt if it could actually ever cover the 2-3k difference in cost in fuel savings. The Yaris-Cross would be a more appropriate option, since a poverty spec one is cheaper than the juke and within my price range. I don't really like their 3-potter and it kinda feels slower than the Corolla.
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The answer is a Fiesta ST
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>>27673736
Have you considered a Citroen C3 / C3 Aircross? Based on all the hybrids, it seems like you want good fuel economy. The C3 was available with 1.5 dci until a couple years ago, and the C3 Aircross is still available new with the diesel. The 1.2L petrol isn't a bad engine either. The interiors are really nice, and I think the exterior styling is alright too. Only downside on the C3 is that they try to nickel and dime you on options. It's less of an issue for the C3 Aircross. Jeremy Clarkson likes the Aircross. It can tow a 13,000 ton boat: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c6N-zitUQ3M
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>>27678921
Lol no it isn't. Not only is it no longer offered new, but used ones are very expensive too.
>>27679079
I find the "new" citroen look abhorrent. I know it's a subjective thing. Plus if I am to spent my money on a horrible cuckover I would like to, at least, not feed the monstrosity that is stellantis.
Now, I am aware that the french are the only ones offering diesel engines in affordable prices. I was looking into a Clio, even though its smaller than I 'd like with the 1.5 blue dCi. It handled surprisingly bad, I remember that Clios used to be some of the best handling budget cars you could get aside maybe a swift. They seem to have cheapened out in both brakes and suspension.

I know nothing about specific cars, only about minor maintenance such as changing out tubes, pumps, and easier access parts when needed
What's a cheap, compact suv I can get that is easier to maintain, that has the POTENTIAL(very hypothetical) for cross country driving and MINOR trail capability that would be willing to last a good part of a decade, granted I take care of it regularly
Or do I just use the money to put a camper shell on my automatic 2wd 93' nissan hardbody?
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>>27677858
Just search "camper shell" or "truck topper" etc on craigslist/facebook marketplace etc and you'll find plenty. Ideally add your model of truck to get a more exact fit, and measure your bed + ask the seller for detailed pictures. Hardbody exact fit toppers are going to be harder to find than, say, Ranger exact fit toppers, but the dimensions might be close enough to make it work. Make the bed frame and whatever else you want to put in there yourself.
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>>27677934
I mean I'm getting a shell either way but I still need an alternative vehicle in case something happens to my hardbody, as well and something that can carry more than two people
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>>27677762
sell your automatic hardbody and get a manual one
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>>27677800
>(You) cant have one BTW
Why isn't it possible

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It's ugly and it turns gray after two years.
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>>27676985
they do it in an attempt to hide their massive belt lines and make them look smaller
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>>27677889
>mazdacx30.jpg
What did Subaru mean by this?
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>>27677023
I have been demanding all ABS plastic cars (or at least some better material than paint, which is uber-fragilistic-hyper-faggot-sensitive)

Cars are 4000 (now 6000 thanks EVs) pound monstronsities going 100+mph everywhere (most drivers are unhinged retards) and oh no no no don't dare anything touch them or it's instantly 10K+ repairs, repaint, blending, clearcoat, then the minimum-wage workers did a lazy sloppy job so theirs/they'res clearcoat drips everywhere

FUCK THAT SHIT

How can you accept paying 40-100 grand for a fucking fragile little Coca Cola can that must float through the universe never touching anything or instant 10K penalty?

Why have people not MINECRAFTED all car CEOs houses yet for such nonsense?
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>>27678014
You just described a Saturn.
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>>27676985
That is the single reason why im getting the mazda 3 over this. That black trim is repulsive even if the ride is more comfortable because its higher.

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>at the dealership
>sales guy starts running his "schtick"
>i tell him that i work in sales and know all the tricks
>beaten at his own game, he slinks off to get his manager
>i complete the deal on my terms
>mfw
Ask me your dealership/negotiating questions and I'll answer them if I can
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>>27677770
>buying a car from dealership
>somewhat autistic so hate dealing with salesmen and their tricks
>just pay asking price to get it over with asap
>later at home
>write a little script on my pc to spam the dealership’s online reviews with 1 star ratings
>every so often, have a review call out that specific salesman by name
>also spam their service department with fake appointments
>continue this for years
>keep track of the salesman, and if he quits the dealership, then change the target of my spambot to wherever he goes
I hope that $1k commission was worth it.
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>>27678002
and then everybody clapped
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>>27677952
Lol op btfo
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>>27678002
The salesman's name? Albert Einstein.
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>>27677770
Gee how about... What car did you buy and how much did you pay?

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You WILL slow down
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>>27675313
>hes never been in the situation where hes well past topping out the speedometer and now needs to rely on the rev counter to figure out speed
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>>27678898
That will just raise insurance rates. I rather not pay more money.
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>>27678898
>Just abolish the insurance mandate
This. It's uncompetitive. Insurance companies would need to offer an actually good product and not:
>Rate hikes out the ass for every little thing.
>Pilpul and legal technicalities to make actually getting a payout like pulling teeth.
I don't want insurance. Its overpriced and I don't feel like I am getting anything out of it, but by law, I am legally required to have it. What a load of crap. Imagine if any other product worked like that?
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>>27674773
A low credit score is related with impulsiveness and poor decision making. It absolutely should be used.
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>>27674765

It'd easily plow through your Corolla or RX-7. Rain or shine, the Navigator wins any day.
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>>27679171
Why do you need that barge? Do you and your family all weigh like 400 lbs each?
A CX5 can do almost everything that thing can do at like 50% of the cost and 50% of the running costs. Also way better driving experience.
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>>27679171
It's a shitty ford

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i do not care for the mk4 supra
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>>27678709
This. And even afterwards they said fuck that and used a v8
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>>27678745
Most supercars, even a lot of the iconic ones from the last century, are ugly.
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>>27675775
If I had 100k to spend on a supra I wouldn't pick the 80 series or mk4 as stupid yanks call it.
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>>27678022
>but muh 1400hp roll racer
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>>27679246
Those are good at what they do and that anon was wrong anyway, I could have sworn there were successful v8 jap supra touring cars.

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is it worth putting this shit on my pleather seats? they arent dirty or cracked, but i would like to do some preventive maintenance on them, just not sure if its worth spending $20 shekels on this or if its just snake oil and wont do anything
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>>27677893
Not that guy but you dont wanna use any finishes on rubber floor mats or the pedals. Thats just asking for a shit your pants situation. Then youll need to clean your car all over again
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>>27672872
yes put dish soap on your interior, that totally wont fuck everything up
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>>27678495
To chime in, dish soap will fuck up certain plastics. I recently had an issue where my door handle was sticky so I tried wiping it with dish soap and it literally fucking dissolved.
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>>27677893
Nothing, slippery is good. Less friction and abrasion + prevents stretching the fabric when you slide on it.
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>>27672864
VLR, zoomer

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Getting this this summer and gonna remap it into around 290hps. I also will put a new differential for more fun, thoughts?
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>>27678863
its b48b16 version so it will be fine
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>>27679119
holy shit a t*rk ahahahahahaah
you guys get bespoke cucked engine variants
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I like how the guy with the BMW is still the only one to post his car ITT
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>>27679154
???
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>>27679162
likely because he's the only one who owns a car ITT


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