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So my friend from uni who I used to do easy /out/ trips has invited me to come visit him (moved to USA) and go camping all over the mid west and Western US for a month. I recently got a job but told them about this plan and they okayed me starting later so I literally have a month straight of camping.

I am actually spooked about camping in dense woods in places like Pennsylvania (where we start), Michigan, Minnesota, even Black Hills in SD. I feel like out west it's more expansive and even if forested it's not as creepy (maybe I'm wrong).

But I legit think I might blow it because I'm creeped out by the woods. Is it actually that creepy? I've done camping in UK and France and wasn't really afraid but this is my first time doing backcountry camping.
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>>2731766
>In the modern era nature is occult?
It's about as evident in modern life as the occult, which is to say not at all, so it makes sense that people who have no understanding of either would collate them based purely on vibes.
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>>2726016
The scariest thing about this video is how he leaves a fire unattended.
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Here in Oregon the two most scary thing in the woods are other people, and dry lighting. Both can be kind of terrifying. Luckily I have a really low fear tolerance. I don't feel fear much just get angry.
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>>2726190
(you)
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It would be best if you had a kayak or canoe for Minnesota/Michigan if you are going to the Northwoods

There are black bear and wolves, no cougars or brown bears

It's pretty spooky since there is a lot of bog and swamp mixed in

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hunters of /out/, what's the last thing you hunted & ate?
The main thing to hunt where I live is deer, Venison is really good but its illegal to sell anything. I have some pelts but idk what to do with them
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Also, you want to hunt elk because it's the same amount of work as deer, but you get double the meat and it's better tasting meat anyway. They're also easier to hunt because of the bugling, cow calling, size and color.
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>>2731350
christ you've got some long fingers
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Badger
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Last thing I've hunted and ate is a deer in my back field with my .50 cal flintlock, next hunting season I want to try an get an elk. For that trip I might bring a 30-06
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>>2732203
agarthan phenotype

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I have a dream to see the Wollemi pines in the wild. But the actual location of the valley containing the trees within the national park is a closely guarded secret. Wollemi NP is massive and almost entirely wilderness; I'm pretty sure I could search for years without ever finding them.

Does anyone have any leads or know anything about this?
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>>2728565
The coordinates are already ITT.
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>>2730102
no they aren't
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>>2730105
Yes, they are.
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>>2722172
>Kauir dieback

90% of the shoe cleaning stations don't even have fucking disinfectant in them because DOC are useless faggots. Not to mention that the deer, pigs, possums, birds and everything else that roams all over the soil, trees, roots and plants are responsible for spreading it, not some retards walking down a track. Kauri trees are donzo, they should just let people enjoy them while they still exist.
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Wollemi bump

Two of my hiking friends are going to the USA for two months leaving me alone for the summer without hiking friends. I don't get it. I am from the Netherlands, which yes is flat and boring but Europe is better than America for landscapes. Want mountains? Go to urals, Carpathians, Alps. Want canyons? Go to Greece, Turkey, and France. Want deserts? Visit Spain. Want grasslands? Visit the European plains. Want forests? Visit England, Germany, Baltics.

I have been told American plains and flatlands and grasslands are more interesting because the heat lightening and powerful storms are awesome. But so? So you're saying Europe cannot do awe inspiring stuff?

To me it's Americentrism. Like we all must go to America for nature. Europe has so much more and yes I know people will say america has areas of super sparse populations. Okay, so does Russia. So what? If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.

In my view people should stay in europe because then our nature will be more accurately seen as as good as or even better than americas. America has mythologies around their natural areas which sadly causes europeans to think it is worth it to visit.
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Yes America sucks dont come here
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>>2726651
>hiking in USA to see plains, mountains, canyons, deserts and forests
>just go, maybe watch out for bears
>hiking in Europe to see plains, mountains, canyons, deserts and forests
>lol, get a passport, learn local laws for every place you're visiting (as camping may be practically illegal) and learn at least 5 different languages first, then maybe we'll talk
y-yeah, europe sure is great bros
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>>2732353
>get a passport
Is that even a problem in the US?
>learn local laws for every place you're visiting (as camping may be practically illegal)
It's literally a google away. Just avoid the countries with nazi laws and expensive tickets (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) and you'll be fine. The entire Scandinavia has ultra liberal camping laws, same goes for most of Eastern Europe and the Balkans. Even if you get caught in some of the places where camping is illegal, they won't do anything.

Also, reminder, you can sleep anywhere if nobody sees you. Avoid very popular tourist destinations, do stealth camping, sleep under a tarp or a bivvy, also the authorities are usually much more friendly towards foreigners, unless you're from an "enemy" country.

>learn at least 5 different languages first
Every other person in Europe is at least communicative in English, and usually the authorities are fluent. No, you don't really need to learn any language, unless you're planning on moving there, but it's a whole nother story.
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>>2726651
Correct. Don't come here. Stay in your bug hive.
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>>2732353
>laws
LOL
lmao even

>I live in New England, birthplace of faggot ass Lyme Disease, ticks are everywhere innawoods
>Already had Lyme twice in my youth, never want that shit again

I bought a pair of $100 pants from Duluth that were branded as "no bug/tick" which according to the label is some proprietary Permethrin infusion.
>catch tick
>put it on pants
>watch it walk all over for several minutes, completely unbothered by the "kills bugs and ticks guaranteed!" pants
>return pants because they clearly do not fucking work

So were these pants just trash? Or is Permethrin ineffective?

What is the best way to protect from these little fuckers? Between hiking, mushrooming, and camping i'm off trail at least 75% of the time essentially bushwhacking through trees and brush.
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>>2732239
I bet the Jews have something to do with it
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I'm living alone. If a tick latches on to me in a place that I can't see, say ass or back of the scrotum, how the hell will I even tell I have one before I get hospitalized and have permament brain damage?
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>>2732271
Lose weight. I can easily see the back of my balls. And can see my backside in the mirror. It's easy if you aren't morbidly obese.
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>>2732271
idk fren, it's unpleasant to consider

is european buckthron further evidence that europeans ruin everything they touch?
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Europeans love walkability. Right is so much better. Left = car culture
right = public transit
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>>2732388
>likening public transit users to invasive species
I like you.
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>>2730336
North America looks nothing like when the euro-trash started coming here en-masse in the 1700s.
The entire west coast of the US should have 600-1000 year old trees and they not only cut all of them down, they refuse to ever let most of them grow back.

The entire midwest used to be loosely packed beaver dams and wetlands and during the western expansion that was all leveled for farms and hundreds of millions of beavers were turned into hats.

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Hey /out/,
I'm planning to go on a bike trip with this girl I like. It'll be about 70km, so we'll be out for a while.
I bought >pic rel last year for my trips so I don't have to carry all the water I need with me from the start.
Would it be too autistic to bring the water filter on this bike trip date? I'm worried she'll think I'm weird.
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>>2722759
No, if anything you are autistic for overthinking such a minuscule thing. Enjoy your trip.
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>>2722759
i don't think ive done a hike where i ever needed more than 4 or 5 water bottles. just load up on these bad boys and ration (brand doesn't matter)
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>>2730563
just sit close to her when you stop for a rest under a tree to eat and give her a look.
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>>2730563
ask yourself what a bear would do
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>>2722759
let us know how the date went, anon
Anyways, if she likes you at all she'll look over it.
You don't want to spend too much time with someone who wouldn't at least find it interesting

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Hi /out/. I humbly seek feedback on new gear acquisition. It has been many years since ive done anything outdoors related. I got stuck in my city after covid and never made a real attempt to change that until now. I have done one overnight backpacking trip years ago along with previous camping. I want to get back into backpacking, camping and thru hiking. My short term goal is to do various day trips and get comfortable with overnight stuff. My ultimate goal is to survive in the wild for up to two weeks. I live in the southwest. Im willing to spend more upfront for gear that will last a long time in nearly every weather condition.

Shelter:
Tent
>Durston X Mid 2
Sleeping bag
>Nemo forte
Sleeping pad
>nemo tensor extreme

Food:
>Pathfinder M40 cook set
>alcohol stove
>canister stove
>homemade MREs and camping meals

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Sounds like you're more prepared than most people who come here. Good work mate go get it done.
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>>2732214
I can only think of a few bits that you might want.
>sponge. for condensation/desert water collection
>tin pot. for charcloth making/storage
>salt. for electrolytes
>wire, line/hooks and paracord. hunting, fishing respectively
>duct tape. for repairs
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I'm in a similar boat, gone on plenty of day trips but now planning more overnights. You learn a lot from experience, you will make mistakes no matter how much you plan so it's important to just get out. Couple of things I learned:
>don't bring overly dry food or food that can go stale (like bread), this will make you more thirsty
>bring some fresh fruit, you'd be surprised how amazing it is to have an apple or orange on a long day
>bring extra water for your first few trips, it will be heavier but you will quickly learn how much water you need
>don't underestimate how cold or sunny it can get, i'd recommend bringing less total clothes but more that you can mix/layer together to avoid freezing your ass like i did a couple of times, or getting sun burn because you didn't bring a hat/long sleeves

I just ordered the x-mid as well. One problem I had with my previous pole tent was sliding around so much because of plastic pads on plastic floors on plastic footprints etc. Would recommend either bringing a very thin layer of eva foam to put under your sleeping pad to stop it sliding around or what I did was apply stripes of seam sealer to the underside of my sleeping pad.
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>>2732232
Thanks anons, much appreciated

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How do I get my front yard and backyard to look as good as this yard?
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Ahh Summer. Where at any given time you can hear some person mowing
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>>2732302
That's another reason reel mowers are superior.
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>>2728094
Assuming you don't have any ant colonies or underground root systems that are tapping the sod dry from below:
>set your lawnmower to its highest setting
>aerate every year or two
>weed and feed.

Regular watering if you want it to look really good.
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>>2730349
I like it here. If there were no pine barrens I would have left Jersey by now. There's all sorts of abandoned stuff everywhere, some going back to the 1700's. It's challenging to grow stuff here tho...the topsoil is maybe 2-3" thick and it stunts the pines and anything else growing here.
The previous owner of my place (half acre in a little neighborhood in the middle of nowhere) mowed down the natural flora and put grass and other non-indiginous (?) shrubs and trees here. I'm slowly doing away with a lot of the grass and planting natural stuff to make it more like the Pine Barrens and less like something it's not.
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>>2731011
If you have a mower, and it's early in the season, set your mower to a very low setting, remove the bag if you have one, and go over the lawn slowly. This might be enough to crush and break up the clods of manure, or hopefully they will get sucked up into the blades and chopped up.

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saw or hatchet/axe for outdoor?
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>>2731821
tips for choosing a nice hatchet?
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>>2732233
I've used Estwing Sportsman hatchets for years. They come in different sizes. You can pick one up for around $45.
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Qiwiz makes a bucksaw, the Lil Buck. It weighs less than 4 oz. and fits in a tyvek envelope. Will cut 6 inch logs but it's best for 3-4 inch wood. The Lil Buck together with a 6 inch knife for splitting dead wood logs equals really easy fires. Used this weekend in Northern Michigan with great results.
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Hatchet is the best all around for general use. If you want to do bush crafting or need to get through bigger branches or small logs a lightweight folding Japanese pull saw will cut through clean and quicker.
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>>2731773
kukri

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theres a mountain about 3 kms away from where i live and there are always tons of rabbits there.
maybe im autistic or something but i think it would be really cool to try hunt them only using primitive tools/weapons (nothing more advanced than a bow, and thats already pushing it).
has anyone tried it? or tried rabbit hunting in general? im just looking to get a couple every few weeks or so, nothing too crazy
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>>2727334
Hey, it's that guy! Haven't seen you post in ages.
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>>2730415
Blunt are used because broadheads will fuck up most of the small amount of meat and it's better to crush the ribcage entirely than skewer through it.
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>>2730524
In my opinion game blunts, even for rabbits, are not particularly effective. The only good thing about them is that they make it harder to damage or lose an arrow.
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Bump, I like this thread
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>>2726559
me and my brother used to hunt rabbits using 2 different methods when we were bored tweens.

the first method we would use is find a creek with a lot of bunny dropping and climb up into a tree with a big rock. then we would wait and when we saw a bunny we would drop the rock on it. worked pretty consitently but requires alot of waiting

we also would make long spears (~8 feet) and just really slowely approach the bunny until we were with arms reach plus the length of the spear. then we would take a big lunging step and stab out and down. this method takes some practice as you cant look directly at the bunny becuase our predator eyes make them run away and me and my brother could only be quiet enough when we were barefoot.

hope this helps anon

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Here is your pocket knife bro
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>>2729531
The only ones worth stabbing anyone with have locking blades.
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>>2730430
We have an enormous number of foreigners in our cities that really hate us and each other, but don’t have access to guns, so just have to make do with continuing their millennia old conflicts and expressing their total contempt for the natives, who’s taxes pay for them to kill around on the streets all day doing nothing, before working as Deliveroo drivers in the evening, by stabbing everyone for fun and profit.
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>>2730430
turns out that people who want to hurt others will find a way to do it whether they can get a gun or not. people seem to forget that you can cause a lot of damage with pretty much any car and they're everywhere, no need for a weapon
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>>2730454
So... a new model? With a new design, newly manufactured?
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>>2729413
>due to crime wave
fucking where? they think anything happening 'murica or even UK affects the largest pocket knife manufacturer in the world, located in Switzerland?
they're just looking to expand and being so dominant they only just now found an opportunity - a BRAND NEW, TSA safe product
>>2729426
>>2729580
kek
>>2729628
it's the problem of an english language that it has no word for a multitool of the style
mine does

I love going up to the mountains and trundling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6vWEjN-DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6L_EZHPwFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxRE1T63u9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQypVTkNIKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoexvxaCNc

Best fun to be had while /out/
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>>2730322
>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST ALLOW GRAVITY TO ACT ON MASS!! THAT ROCK BALANCED ON ANOTHER ROCK WAS AESTHETICALLY SIGNIFICANT!!!!!
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>>2730300
>Going around ruining aesthetically pleasing structures for no reason
Nigger behaviour
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>>2730300
Rock rolling is based. All these fucking mud mixers must fucking hang.
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If anyone's doing this to major rock formations that are famous they can get fucked.

Otherwise if its a commonly used rock climbing path or otherwise on some's private property or about to fall anyway I see no harm in knocking rocks down.
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You must stop trundling because any boulder you roll is one I won't be able to. If you were smart you'd also have this mentality and keep the very idea to yourself.

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>blocks your path
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>>2728215
They have massive warning signs on a river near Manchester I used to walk around.

But no attempts whatsoever to control it. They've just accepted it's here, and warn people not to go near it.

The thing is, it wasn't there 5 years before. But when it arrived, it fucking loved the area and took over, outcompeted all the native plants and the response of the council was just to put up signs. Now we have to permanently live with it.
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>The plant was common only in the Caucasus area until it started to be used as a silage plant in other parts of the Soviet Union. As a result, it quickly spread in many areas of Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine. It is now a highly invasive plant in the Baltic States, Russia, Poland, and Belarus

>The decision to use the plant for silage was made in 1947 under Stalin's rule, so when the species later proved to be highly invasive and difficult to remove, people started to call it "Stalin's revenge
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>>2730769
Psychotropics are also supposed to be a poison so you could just assume the whole thing is a bundle of poison.
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>>2728163
So this is the fabled faustian spirit
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>>2730678
DROP THAT RIIGHT NOW

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Memes, aesthetics, art, ect
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>>2731622
clumpy, heavy snow is always supreme comfy
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>>2731673
according to my records I made it whey back in 2013, /out/'s salad years for sure
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oh I found this cheeky little one I made back when i was dealing with trespassers
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>>2731501
That's not really a good way to get rid off butts. Just collect them, if you really care
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>>2732008
it's satire anon. it was intended to enrage.


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